Exactly. We're all just people living completely different life experiences. But we're all here, we've all stayed for years, and gotten to know each other - accepted everyone with all of their faults and all.It's because we feel bad for getting into it with him.
That's really all it is. It's just guilt.
@Bugalu was an oter I felt like I could disagree with vehemently in one thread and simultaneously laugh/joke with in another. It was never personal. I remember talking old benzes with him 10+ years ago, talking real estate with him more recently, and arguing about politics at the same time. He always came across as a good natured person who was easy to get along with.Exactly. We're all just people living completely different life experiences. But we're all here, we've all stayed for years, and gotten to know each other - accepted everyone with all of their faults and all.
Really truly absolutely sucks that we had to lose someone who demonstrably did so much for so many others but seemed the opposite to some.
I didn't see it either mate. running all this thru my mind over and over thinking I missed somethingSo I could have gone to see @Bugalu in December when I spent the night in Nashville driving my first bronco home from Iowa but I forgot to pack an extra set of daily contacts so I had to make it home the next day so I didn’t have time. Wish I packed better and spent the day with my boy because now I can’t
Fuck man, I had no idea he was in a bad spot. We’ve been texting regularly and joking and sending memes and I’ve read the three years of texts with him on his new Nashville number that I have like 5 times now and literally zero signs he was anything but happy
As someone who has had really low points in my life, the people who are the most hurt.. hide it the best. It’s not something you or I could have prevented. I know it.I didn't see it either mate. running all this thru my mind over and over thinking I missed something
This has been my battle for the last 7yrs after loosing a friend of 30yrs. People hide it well.As someone who has had really low points in my life, the people who are the most hurt.. hide it the best. It’s not something you or I could have prevented. I know it.
But I’ll never stop thinking we missed something
He actually went pretty personal on some topics, to be honest. But, he sought out my help with an engagement ring in the next breath, so I had the pleasure to get to know him on that level. He was loved and gave love. He was generous and kind, despite being stubborn and unyielding in other ways. He spent his time here with the rest of us misfits and that alone deserves for us to be kind to each other.@Bugalu was an oter I felt like I could disagree with vehemently in one thread and simultaneously laugh/joke with in another. It was never personal. I remember talking old benzes with him 10+ years ago, talking real estate with him more recently, and arguing about politics at the same time. He always came across as a good natured person who was easy to get along with.
I never met him irl but I wish I’d had the chance. This was terrible to read tonight and completely unexpected![]()
Have an Irish brother. Confirmedirish brothers.
always fighting but lord help you if you fuck with one of us.
It’s also a reward. You got through another day of dealing with whatever? You deserve to get absolutely shitfacedIt's a salve, a means for numbing the pain, a much needed distraction, and an excuse to shut off a little, among other things.
I'm just at 4 years dry and have been sincerely considering picking up a bottle these past few weeks.
It is what it is, for each of us.
Dealing with @whatever is the worstIt’s also a reward. You got through another day of dealing with whatever? You deserve to get absolutely shitfaced
mate I’ll catch up with you soon. Maybe meet half way, like Terry Hills TavernOh man, he was my elf for secret Santa last year…
This one is hitting home.
most addicts don’t want them(i mean they do lol but will openly tell their physician they don’t want them prescribed). even then of course if you get major surgery or a major injury they will prescribe them but it’s advised you speak with your sponsor about possibly letting a trusted non addict you’re close with keep the bottle and give them to you as prescribed. even then jt’s a slippery slopethe fear a lot of people have is that you are honest about addiction issues you get flagged as an addict and then can't get painkillers if you have an injury or something like that. I don't know how true that is.
So I could have gone to see @Bugalu in December when I spent the night in Nashville driving my first bronco home from Iowa but I forgot to pack an extra set of daily contacts so I had to make it home the next day so I didn’t have time. Wish I packed better and spent the day with my boy because now I can’t
Fuck man, I had no idea he was in a bad spot. We’ve been texting regularly and joking and sending memes and I’ve read the three years of texts with him on his new Nashville number that I have like 5 times now and literally zero signs he was anything but happy
most addicts don’t want them(i mean they do lol but will openly tell their physician they don’t want them prescribed). even then of course if you get major surgery or a major injury they will prescribe them but it’s advised you speak with your sponsor about possibly letting a trusted non addict you’re close with keep the bottle and give them to you as prescribed. even then jt’s a slippery slope
As someone who has had really low points in my life, the people who are the most hurt.. hide it the best. It’s not something you or I could have prevented. I know it.
But I’ll never stop thinking we missed something
He may not have known the extent of damage he was doing or maybe didn't care or even thought about it. We all have times where we think "it won't happen to us."
I can see why people feel that way, but I think the better approach is to be completely open and discuss it with a doctor you have a relationship with. I had a patient last week who had abused IV pain meds, and she told me that she was grateful for me treating her with dignity and respect. I can easily do that because she was 100% up front with me. When someone lies to me right off the bat, they lose the respect very quickly. I had another patient today who has chronic pain and has been on high pain meds after surgery, and we drew up a plan for cutting back on the pain meds. I told her to tell me how many she would need, because I knew that she'd pick a lower number than if I came up with it and then she felt she'd need more. Letting her feel that this was a joint decision goes a long way.the fear a lot of people have is that you are honest about addiction issues you get flagged as an addict and then can't get painkillers if you have an injury or something like that. I don't know how true that is.