I just realized this. Every girl I've had any kind of success with, from LTR to just making out or whatever, was initially attracted to me before I even did anything. I was able to maintain and increase attraction in these cases before I had even heard of PUA/MM/seduction/whatever. Every girl I have opened, or every girl I have talked to who was not initially attracted to me, I have been unable to build any sort of attraction in whatsoever. Even tho I am starting to have a basic grasp of "attraction-building fundamentals," I am still apparently entirely unable to use them. Remember that I am in my new mindset now so I'm going to place the fault on me in that I'm still doing something wrong (confidence/congruency/bodylanguage/etc) rather than base it on my old model (that long ass post from a few weeks ago) in which I basically believe that it is not possible to build attraction and that attraction is based on subconscious interpretation of physical characteristics that are, for all intents and purposes, not things that you can change (ie. genetic level variances). But that's my old, defeatist way of thinking, so fuck that negative shit, right? It has also been my experience that, in the rare instance that a chick is attracted to me, it's nearly impossible to fuck it up without doing something really stupid (knock on wood). But again, that was my old model, and I'm sure I'll manage to fuck it up in the future... actually, I'm hoping I do, because that would help disprove my old model. My Old Model (based on my 26 years of life experience) - Attraction is based on almost entirely on subconscious responses to physical appearance at the level of genetic variation such that they are typically things you cannot change. Therefore: - If a chick is not attracted to you from the first instant she sees you, you have 0 chance with her because "building attraction" is not possible. You do not meet the physical requirements (not necessarily related to good looks, but to genetic variations she subconsciously responds to) to trigger attraction and there is nothing you can do change this - If a chick is attracted to you from the first instant she sees you, it is nearly impossible to fuck it up without doing something really, really dumb. My New Model (PUA/MM/seduction model that I am dying to believe is actually the correct model) - It is possible to build attraction in anyone through the use of PUA techniques. Therefore: - I am a huge chode and cannot manage to do this; the problem lies with me and my shitty application of established techniques. Understand that 100% of my experiences fit my old model and I'm having a very hard time placing them into my "new model" paradigm. I feel like I can explain them through the new model but it's at the micro level, but my old model explains them at the macro level.