Who uses them and how well do they work? Since I can't decide on a holster I'm at least going to get a belt on order and need to decide if I want a velcro liner or not. Seems like it would be the ideal system if they really held well, but it just doesnt seem they would be all that solid. The other option I've read about is affixing some velcro to the face of a "C clip", which would keep the clip from pulling away or moving laterally, but would still bear most of the weight on the clip instead of the velcro or waistband of the pants. The other thing I'd worry about is the loop material getting frayed and loosing grip over time. I'm pretty sure Soybomb posted a pic of them on his Answer... anyone else?