ART JPEG vs Unedited RAW v.ohaiimanoob

Smeghead

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JPEG vs Unedited RAW v.ohayimanoob

Does JPEG look better since it's pp'd by default while the united raw isn't? I'm talking about just converting the raw to JPEG without doing any editing.
 
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ericande

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It depends on your conversion. When you convert to jpg from raw you ARE editing unless you just leave all the defaults on. Which is dumb in most cases.
 
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Smeghead

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It depends on your conversion. When you convert to jpg from raw you ARE editing unless you just leave all the defaults on. Which is dumb in most cases.
Yeah I've never done it. I don't see any point with taken pics in RAW if you're going to edit them. But I'm just curious if they would still be better.
 

mikeskillz

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the colors will look a bit better, and maybe slightly sharper? the point of raw is it saves all of the data it needs to make the final jpeg incase you want to change the colors or use some shadow/highlights that jpeg creation would otherwise discard.
 

adamlewis88

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I personally feel that converted RAW files look better than their camera-JPG counterparts. I say this after shooting camera-JPG for years and then finally switching halfway through owning the MkIII. The converted MkIII JPG files looked much clearer and had less noise than the camera JPGs did IMO.
 

Drunken Karnie Midget

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I personally feel that converted RAW files look better than their camera-JPG counterparts. I say this after shooting camera-JPG for years and then finally switching halfway through owning the MkIII. The converted MkIII JPG files looked much clearer and had less noise than the camera JPGs did IMO.
:werd: After having started shooting in RAW only, i've noticed the difference in photochop after going back and processing some camera .jpgs id taken before i knew about raw... i've noticed a distinct difference. The camera jpgs were severely pixelated at the edges, while the converted RAW files were still crisp smooth edges, even when heavily zoomed in. Camera jpg does some vicious compression, and you loose a lot of information that you could otherwise work with.
 

jared_IRL

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I personally feel that converted RAW files look better than their camera-JPG counterparts. I say this after shooting camera-JPG for years and then finally switching halfway through owning the MkIII. The converted MkIII JPG files looked much clearer and had less noise than the camera JPGs did IMO.

:werd: After having started shooting in RAW only, i've noticed the difference in photochop after going back and processing some camera .jpgs id taken before i knew about raw... i've noticed a distinct difference. The camera jpgs were severely pixelated at the edges, while the converted RAW files were still crisp smooth edges, even when heavily zoomed in. Camera jpg does some vicious compression, and you loose a lot of information that you could otherwise work with.


everyone comes around eventually....

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MTech

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So what kinda storage are you working with if all you shoot is RAW?? Or do you guys not shoot much than?
 

Drunken Karnie Midget

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At the moment, i've only got 1 2Gb card, though i'll get more as soon as i can spare the scratch. As far as permanent storage, i just delete all the shit files. Useless, skull-fuckingly boring, camera shake, etc. My recommendation, get larger cards. if you want you can shoot raw+jpg, but that's even more storage. It's gonna be a balancing act over what you value more, Getting ALL your camera is capable of, or having more space to fill. I can store about half as many RAW shots as i can jpg, but when it comes to PP, it's worth it. i can do more, without glaring obvious signs of alteration. The choice is yours.
 

someonenew

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So what kinda storage are you working with if all you shoot is RAW?? Or do you guys not shoot much than?
buy multiple cards and don't worry about it:dunno:

with the cost of cards there's no reason to not have multiple cards in your gear bag. If 1 card doesn't hold enough buy 2, if that's not enough buy 3...etc:o
 

wizeguy4

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I will only delete test shots, to check for white balance and blowouts. After that, I will then only delete items that are out of focus or horribly timed. I have found that sometimes hidden int he picture os something I think was a bad shot hides a different image I was not going for that just needs cropping. so for fear of losing these, I save them all till I can get them to a monitor to have a better look.

and witht he sandisc rebate always going on, last week Circuit city had the 4gb ex 3 for 47 after tax and 60 buck visa card with the purchase of 3 with rebate making the final cost like 80 bucks for (3) 4gb cards
 

someonenew

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a buddy of mine who does wedding photography started me on the "never delete anything" kick. His theory is this...your shot might not be perfect right now, but what's to say you didn't capture a moment that turns out to be something the client really wants. A good example he uses is that he caught an image of a bride's grandfather. The image was a little blurry (the grandfather was not the focus of the image) but he was crying in the image. It turns out the grandfather died a week after the wedding. The image was the last image ever captured of the grandfather. Bride bought a HUGE print of it because of this. :hs:
 

adamlewis88

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So what kinda storage are you working with if all you shoot is RAW?? Or do you guys not shoot much than?

Currently, I have 3x 4GB CF and 2x 2GB CF cards. Im going to get a couple 8GB UDMA cards when I get the 5DII though. Ill probably give the 2GB cards to someone local who could use them.

As far as storing on my PC; I try to weed out any shots that I dont think I would do something with later. If Im not going to do anything with it, theres not much point in keeping the RAW file hanging around taking up space.

Fortunately, I still have space internally but when I need more Ill just get a WB external drive.
 

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