Has anyone been noticing Judos effectiveness in MMA? karo parysian is an excellent example, however there are also people out there with black belts in judo and bjj eg: shinya aoki and Ranaldo 'jacare' Souze. These people are lethal, and heres my reason why i think this. After the bjj craze died down and people learned how to sprawl and avoid the take down, as well as getting up from the ground and avoiding submissions, bjj lost alot of its effectiveness, however when u add judo and bjj together, you can keep the fight on the ground as much as you like with a deadly takedown clinch. Thoughts?