Just heard the most retarded line of logic for using .410 as a HD load Just got back from the local gun shop and was shooting the shit talking to another customer. We got on the subject of home defense shotguns and gauges, to which he looked at my Mossberg (in 12 ga) and said: I just looked at him and did a combination of + I asked: "Seriously? Isnt there only 4-5 buck shot in each shell? That doesnt seem like enough shot, or muzzle velocity for and effective defense load. .410 would certainly not be my first choice for a HD load." He kept persisting that .410 is a perfectly fine guage for HD. I ended up giving up trying to talk some sense into him. EDIT: Yes I is rearded for speeling retartded wrong, morans.