Discussion in 'On Topic' started by SnakeEater, Jul 14, 2009.
That's just completely fucked up.
they're not that good
I heard that Daniel Defense and LaRue have been lobbying to keep the RAS on the list.
if they really thought it was so bad that they can't sell their merchandise to civilians, they shouldn't sell to law enforcement either.
I don't agree with this - KAC is a very stand up company.
I think they would swallow their pride and sell to LE and MIL to make sure the guys who wanted it could get it. I don't think it's about the sales - they're already the type of company that has a demand in excess of supply.
I also don't see individual officer and military unit purchases in California being a huge part of their business.
I agree with mvizos.
Selling to LEO's and not the rest of the general public is just propagating the idea that "police can have guns, but you can't"
If the Cali government wants their police officers to have the best tools available to do their job, there's no reason the public can't have the same tools to protect themselves. Preventing the LEO's from getting the items the Cali gov decided to ban is the only way to get the lawmakers to understand this point, IMO.
Well, when proving a political point for an otherwise lost state supercedes the importance of members of the armed forces and police to have access to some of the finest rifles and night vision equipment ever made....I'm sure this will mean something.
If the law stated that ALL rails were AW and only available to LE, I could certainly understand standing on principle and refusing to sell those items even to LE.
As it is just the KAC rails that are named in the law, it would be moot and silly of KAC to refuse LE sales.
While I agree with the argument that cutting off all LE sales of a certain tool would shine the glaring stupidity of their bright ideas back in the lawmakers faces, that one brand of rail is banned would mean if KAC refused LE sales, then DD/Larue/etc would be there to fill the void and there would be little pressure from the LE community for the lawmakers to change anything. To a politicritter, a rail is a rail, it doesn't matter who makes it. If the cops want rails and they can get rails, move on to the next issue.
It means everything.
They may be able to ignore laws on some musty 200 year old paper. They may be able to ignore hundreds of thousands of angry voices. It's a lot harder to ignore the anger of the government agencies whose job of upholding the law is made more difficult by unconstitutional laws and the subsequent refusal of private companies to do business with governments that pass such laws.
Favoring exemptions of such laws only serves to say that you favor an armed class and a disarmed class of citizenry, and if all manufacturers followed Barrett's lead, then LE agencies would have to decide which side they were on. Do they demand to law to be just and equal for all? Or do they just thank their fortunes that they are allowed to arm themselves above the unwashed masses of second class citizens?
Join or Die.
That was really well written.
And totally inconsequential.
KAC not selling to qualified purchasers in California would have no effect on anything. It would just mean a) lost sales b) guys not being able to get KAC products.
Look how well Barrett's boycott of California is working.
Not sure what the issue is? if KAC should just follow the off list lower thinking and just rebrand their rail system for California. That would be a real FUCK You to CA gun laws. Just send a couple hundred of each batch to get laser etched or whatever process they use with a different product name. They could make a big deal with the name thing and make it something clever they could market.
I'm sure a marketing guy could have a field day with it.
"KAC would like to announce to Californians that our new line of libral baby killing rails (LBKR) are now legal for sale in your state. Similar to another product that we manufacture that is the only product of it's kind that is so bad ass that libral gun grabbers named it specifictly in the assualt weapon ban. Show your defiance of this stupid, unconsitutional, and otherwise plain un-american law buy putting a LBKR system on your CA compliant black rifles.!"
Which is exactly what I said.
The only way it could have any helpful effect on California laws if all manufacturers refused to sell rails to California agencies. As it stands, KAC is just making the best of being fucked by a stupid state.
I wonder if it also applies to the URX rails
taking guns away from the general population and providing weapons to the government is exactly what our forefathers wanted to avoid.
it leaves us at the total mercy of a over reaching and controlling government body that is already corrupt and only becoming more so.
WHAT A LOAD OF MOTHERFUCKING HORSESHIT
that being said, i want a KAC tripple tap break
Fuckers are not cheap!
But I've noticed alot of KAC stuff slowly coming available to us civies as of late
yeah dude. that shit is like 3-400
They are pussies.
Barrett is a real firearms company. Won't let citizens buy? Fine, fuck you and your state.
By playing this game, they allow the government to win.
Their forum on silencertalk is the place to go.
They've explicitly stated they're trying to become more civilian friendly.
fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu. My $29 Miculek brake will have to do for now.
Yep.And Neil from GG is very fucking cool
YOU SAVE $4.55!
I'll take 5. Now I can be just like Chris Costa. Do I need to grow a beard before I can order?
What's so great about it?
apparently ZERO recoil (hence the name)
There are better comp designs for much less money