started this as a post in random thoughts thread but it got long so i decided to start a convo about bisexuals (not bisexuality per se but the conduct of bisexual people). basically let's talk about our experiences with bisexuals or as bisexuals. in my experience, a lot of "bi" guys use the term bi as a cop-out card. that is, they call themselves bi or an occasional bi so that once he gets bored of me or of the sex, he can just say "oh yah, i was just confused, i'm actually into women". that's happened to me twice, and it's made me extremely distrustful of bi guys. i know that bisexuality exists in many people but it seems like quite a few gay or even straight guys will call themselves bi because they're too much of a pussy to just come clean with their actual feelings. also, i think a lot of people use bisexuality as an excuse to not have to be monogamous. 2 examples - i dated one frat boy who was straight, except for occasionally wanting a cock in his ass (yah, weird, i know). he said he was confused, didn't know if he was straight bi or gay, but after we'd hooked up a few times i told him i needed a bit more of a commitment, i wanted to be a one-man kinda guy, and i want someone who isn't afraid to be gay in public. he said he couldn't come out while he was still in college because the frat would eat him alive, which i understood, but that didn't change the fact that i feel i'm too old and too gay to date someone in the closet - hiding my homosexuality is something i will not ever do again. but then he slammed this on me - he said he was confused about his sexuality but all he knew was that he was totally into me, he thought i was gorgeous, he thought he may love me, he only wanted to have sex with me and no one else. which came out of nowhere and floored me - i am a total sucker for people who show me that much affection (god bless emotionally abusive fathers!). so i told him i'd give him a chance, call me and take me out (previously he basically only called me to go to a party (rarely) or he'd call around or after midnight and say let's fuck), it can be somewhere outside of westwood so that no students will see, and let's see where the relationship goes. then we fucked. our relationship basically stayed the same, and i realize now that everything he said he said just to get back into my pants, a tactic he used several times thereafter. but the LAST straw (see, i do actually have a point) was when he picked me up once, i said how are you doing, how was your weekend, and he said he got drunk and fucked some sorority girl. i was like WTF, you told me you only wanted to hook up with ME, which was basically the only reason i let you stay in my life! and he goes, oh, i didn't mean girls, i meant you're the only GUY i want to hook up with. buulllllllshiiiiiiiiit. example number 2: a good friend of mine started dating this really "modernized" girl who believed everyone is bisexual, just doesn't know it yet, so my buddy's myspace suddenly said he was bi. he comes over one day, we sit there doing coke and playing video games, and he starts talking about his cock and how it's so big that it hurts his girl, and that's why he doesn't wear condoms and she recently had an abortion. ugh2:dipshit) anyway, we're both coked up so i tell him to show me his cock, he does, i want to see it harder so i "help" him and start blowing him, we 69, good times. when we're done, i say, boy you better never tell your gf about this, and he says "oh, she won't care, it doesn't count when it's the same sex, she has sex with girls all the time". ugh2:again)this is about the dumbest thing i've ever heard, but then again his recent track record has shown him to be about the dumbest guy i've ever met. cliffs: in my experience lots of men call themselves bisexuals as a cop out, either to have more sex than conventional courtesy allows, or to prevent them from having to be honest with themselves or their partners.