Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by huge, Feb 5, 2008.
I'm a linux newb... can some one help me out?
You just asked an SA question
i've never been over there
Advantages for what? If you're new to linux you should be running Ubuntu.
I specifically need to know Red Hat's Advantages.
Just in general... why would one choose RH over the other two? Price? Features? Support? etc.
not from the vendor, but "supported" software/hardware for the OS.
anything else, or is that it?
wtf is ubuntu?
yeah yeah im going to google now
ok with ubuntu I dont get it, it's all freeware shit but.. what about games? can I play wow, tf2 and install things like STEAM on it?
It's hard to play games on Linux. It shouldn't be, because Linux offers all the same features as Windows, but for some reason most game manufacturers can't be bothered to recompile their games to run on Linux. There are certain programs that can provide Linux-compatible versions of Windows DLLs, so that Windows programs can run on Linux; the free one is called WINE (i.e. WINE Is Not an Emulator), but the best is called "Crossover Office". It costs money, though. If I really had a Windows program I needed to run on Linux I'd buy that program, but since I'm still just dicking around with Linux it's not worth my money yet.
In any event, I do believe WoW is supported by Crossover Office.
RedHat, and Oracle (aka CentOS) are basically identical... CentOS is based on 1 generation behind RH's latest offering...
So with that statement, you are getting either/or that same base foundation of software (which is pretty much the best !!!) which is why Oracle went with CentOS to modify it because they wouldn't have to PAY A DAMN THING !!! ... FREE RH Distro FTW !!!
Now... Suse.. Novell is pretty much 2nd in line in the Linux world (Sun is a diff story)... and they seem to have the retail market/POS system's market in their graps...
RH= enterprise (hardcore/robust and VERY scalable)
Suse= retail & POS systems. They are in the restaurant touch screen systems you see alot
CentOS / Oracle = 1gen behind RH's offering & rock solid. Soon, all of Oracle's products including Hyperion & Essbase will be Linux based
If you need support though, RedHat is 1st class... PERIOD
For a price. Our experience with their basic support (when purchasing AS, for example) is not good, however if you have the money to pay for their TAM service, then you are in support heaven. The support RH offers is why my corporation uses them - we lose too much money when our systems are down and need the support there in case we hit something we can't fix alone.
well then hire a tech/s who are RH certified
I know plenty of corps/bus that are doing that now instead of paying the fees for support to RH... Cheaper too !!
There are plenty of Linux gurus out there that know RH inside and out for a decent price compared to RH's support cost/structure...
It also depends on the TAM. It's a mix. Some are retarded, some are good. Lately they've been sucking. Similar experiences amongst friends at other companies.
Redhat, etc. are inferior to offerings like Ubuntu unless you are a large organization and need 'support.' They are 2-3 years behind Ubuntu.
Yep, as well as steam and a shitton of other apps.
A little lost here... last I knew, CentOS was NOT an Oracle related distro, and the releases are nearly parallel with RHEL, only taking a short period of time to change logos and update some minor changes...
RHEL 5.1 - Released 11-07
CentOS 5.1 - Released 12-07
Correct me if I'm wrong, but WTF are you talking about?
He's right. Unless he needs to use RHEL or CentOS, he'll find it much more pleasant to use *ubuntu instead -- it's the warm fuzzy Linux.
Ahh. Not bad. Good to see the product is continuing to improve.
CentOS is based on RedHat
Oracle is based on CentOS
We don't have any dedicated OS experts on our team as we support AIX, Solaris, HP and RH. Previously we only did AIX but that all changed without much notice
lay off the sack-riding, mmm kay?
Lets be honest, ubuntu is hypocracy at it's worst... it says down-with-bloat yet it's a bloated piece of shit.
And since 99.9% of linux users GIVE UP when something breaks.... (I don't blame them... Ubuntu woos them with promises of point-and-click but then when you want more or if something goes wrong you're forced into the bowels of the CLI)
Honestly first-time users need to start with a stage-2 gentoo install, teaching themselves how things actually work... Then when comfort-levels rise they need to try LFS.
and users never had to do that with Win95 or 98, etc,etc ???
Shit still happens, shit still breaks, CMD still needs to be run from time to time...
Stay out of threads you have no input on...