And man did I just get both at the hands of an SLK 32. I mean my M3 is in the tip-toppest, fire-breathin'est, rip-roarin'est shape of its 80,000 mile life, and the SLK absolutely destroyed me like I wasn't even racing. All I could think about was this video: http://www.ziplink.net/~ctroiane/g35/g35vm3.mpg (7 MB) See what I do to the G35? That's exactly what the SLK 32 did to me, except there was no shift. Just one looong, straight, hopeless clowning as I sat there at WOT with it pulling away from me and nothing I could do about it. Awesome car, Mercedes. Bravo, and I don't care for a second that it's an automatic.