Lol v star trek crew

[Capt. Hammer]

Someone hasn't seen Picard yet

I was pissed off about the "Picard is probably the worst captain" comment. The Picard series is a fucking dumpster fire.

 

[the_antsy_honda]

I was pissed off about the "Picard is probably the worst captain" comment. The Picard series is a fucking dumpster fire.

The Picard series taints his entire captaincy

 

[Twinsen]

I refuse to believe that the Borg have worse network security protocols than humankind and would allow a single re-programmed drone to completely infect and destroy the entire Collective. It's basically akin to someone clicking on a phishing link and downloading ransomware. I don't think the Borg would fall for it.

So do you think if someone asked The Borg Queen if she's lonely and wants friends, she should stop assimilating people against their will and ask people nicely?

Do you think that would actually happen?

 

[stevezissou]

So do you think if someone asked The Borg Queen if she's lonely and wants friends, she should stop assimilating people against their will and ask people nicely?

Do you think that would actually happen?

But that’s the point of starfleet/captain Picard
They are better than the borg.

 

[Joe_Cool]

So do you think if someone asked The Borg Queen if she's lonely and wants friends, she should stop assimilating people against their will and ask people nicely?

Do you think that would actually happen?

Imagine if she was smart enough to just start posting on reddit. "Free nanotech neural upgrades! Come join us! <sexy pic of jeri ryan>" They'd have more neckbeard volunteers than they know what to do with.

 

[Cyan Connect]

But that’s the point of starfleet/captain Picard
They are better than the borg.

I agree with this.

 

[Joe_Cool]

But that’s the point of starfleet/captain Picard
They are better than the borg.

Are they, though?

I bet the borg have never stood by and watched a civilization be annihilated by a supernova or volcanic activity, out of some smug sense of moral superiority.


oops, I meant "prime directive"

 

[Cyan Connect]

Are they, though?

I bet the borg have never stood by and watched a civilization be annihilated by a supernova or volcanic activity, out of some smug sense of moral superiority.


oops, I meant "prime directive"

I disagree. I support some level of rules when meeting new civilizations in space that are not warp-capable yet. I agree with the directive.

 

[Cyan Connect]

My favorite episodes of Star Trek TNG are Cardassian-centric -- Lower Decks and Chain Of Command.

But something tells me the Cardassians are somewhat weaker in DS9 the way the Borg are weaker in Voyager.

Am I wrong?

 

[Joe_Cool]

I disagree. I support some level of rules when meeting new civilizations in space that are not warp-capable yet. I agree with the directive.

So people don't deserve to live if they don't have warp drive yet?

 

[Joe_Cool]

My favorite episodes of Star Trek TNG are Cardassian-centric -- Lower Decks and Chain Of Command.

But something tells me the Cardassians are somewhat weaker in DS9 the way the Borg are weaker in Voyager.

Am I wrong?

The cardassians aren't 2d cardboard cutouts in ds9. They're better in every way because they're dealt with like people instead of a villain of the week.

 

[Cyan Connect]

So people don't deserve to live if they don't have warp drive yet?

No, I dont believe that. It is just they showed the effects of Federation involvement on TNG episodes on pre-warp civilizations.

 

[Cyan Connect]

The cardassians aren't 2d cardboard cutouts in ds9. They're better in every way because they're dealt with like people instead of a villain of the week.

True. But it does not change the fact that my favorite Cardassian episodes are Lower Decks and Chain Of Command, both on Star Trek The Next Generation.

 

[Russel's Teapot]

So Wesley is so hated that they decided to just invent a new kid for her.

 

[stevezissou]

Are they, though?

I bet the borg have never stood by and watched a civilization be annihilated by a supernova or volcanic activity, out of some smug sense of moral superiority.


oops, I meant "prime directive"

I disagree. I support some level of rules when meeting new civilizations in space that are not warp-capable yet. I agree with the directive.

But we saw in “who watches the watchers” star fleet accidentally interfered with the planets population and it took Picard almost dying to prove he wasn’t a god and undo the damage to their society all over an accidental reveal that other people existed outside their planet.

 

[Capt. Hammer]

But we saw in “who watches the watchers” star fleet accidentally interfered with the planets population and it took Picard almost dying to prove he wasn’t a god and undo the damage to their society all over an accidental reveal that other people existed outside their planet.

In addition to his live demonstration, I think the only reason that this worked was because the civilization in question was proto-vulcan and so they were willing to be rational, consider evidence, and apply reason/logic to the circumstances.

If they had been humans, they would have killed the whole away team and they'd still be shaving their heads and naming their kids things that rhyme with Picard to this day

 

[the_antsy_honda]

I don't agree with the prime directive.

What difference does it make if you intervene in the fate of warp capable civilizations? We've already established that theres a range of technology capability been different chickens civilizations, even once they've achieved warp.

Maybe it's medicine. Maybe a disease affects one that they can't cure, but they have warp 1. How would intervening with them not change the course of their history? A warp 1 civilization would never survive a world ending scenario on their own. But because they've met the arbitrary threshold starfleet can help.

But the civilization in the same situation that hasn't met warp won't be saved, despite both civilization being doomed.

And as far as barbaric civilizations go...pretty sure humans displayed some barbaric tendencies still in First contact.

Imo save who you want to save for any reason. By interacting with any civilization at any state you're already altering the course of their history.

The prime directive was just a writing strategy to create tension for the characters. It doesn't make sense on its own.

 

[Publius]

I don't agree with the prime directive.

What difference does it make if you intervene in the fate of warp capable civilizations? We've already established that theres a range of technology capability been different chickens, even once they've achieved warp.

Maybe it's medicine. Maybe a disease affects one that they can't cure, but they have warp 1. How would intervening with them not change the course of their history? A warp 1 civilization would never survive a world ending scenario on their own. But because they've met the arbitrary threshold starfleet can help.

But the civilization in the same situation that hasn't met warp won't be saved, despite both civilization being doomed.

And as far as barbaric civilizations go...pretty sure humans displayed some barbaric tendencies still in First contact.

Imo save who you want to save for any reason. By interacting with any civilization at any state you're already altering the course of their history.

The prime directive was just a writing strategy to create tension for the characters. It doesn't make sense on its own.

blame the vulcans, they didn't contact us until we hit warp so it is clearly a Vulcan policy that was extended to the Federation as a whole upon its founding.

Vulcans, the ultra-libertarians of the Star Trek universe. THOSE PRE-WARP CIVILIZATIONS JUST NEED TO PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS

 

[the_antsy_honda]

Different chickens lol whoops. Different civilizations

 

[the_antsy_honda]

Just woke up, posting from bed pardon me

 

[Twinsen]

Imagine if she was smart enough to just start posting on reddit. "Free nanotech neural upgrades! Come join us! <sexy pic of jeri ryan>" They'd have more neckbeard volunteers than they know what to do with.

Borgify This!

 

[the_antsy_honda]

Borgify This!

i was watching the steve shives vid on episode 2. They were all like, "why did they make worf look so old with the white hair in the show? Dorn looks the same as he did in DS9 they could have just given him the same makeup and he'd look great"

 

[Joe_Cool]

I understand the point of the pd but like all laws, the letter gets prioritized to the detriment of the spirit. Instead of protecting primitive civilizations from unfair influence, it becomes an excuse to stand by and watch when you have the ability to act, and claim moral authority.

 

[Joe_Cool]

i was watching the steve shives vid on episode 2. They were all like, "why did they make worf look so old with the white hair in the show? Dorn looks the same as he did in DS9 they could have just given him the same makeup and he'd look great"

Klingon don't crackon

 

[Twinsen]

I don't agree with the prime directive.

What difference does it make if you intervene in the fate of warp capable civilizations? We've already established that theres a range of technology capability been different chickens civilizations, even once they've achieved warp.

Maybe it's medicine. Maybe a disease affects one that they can't cure, but they have warp 1. How would intervening with them not change the course of their history? A warp 1 civilization would never survive a world ending scenario on their own. But because they've met the arbitrary threshold starfleet can help.

But the civilization in the same situation that hasn't met warp won't be saved, despite both civilization being doomed.

And as far as barbaric civilizations go...pretty sure humans displayed some barbaric tendencies still in First contact.

Imo save who you want to save for any reason. By interacting with any civilization at any state you're already altering the course of their history.

The prime directive was just a writing strategy to create tension for the characters. It doesn't make sense on its own.

I mean, the Prime Directive is kind of high-and-mighty, but necessary. I think The Orville did a great job of depicting the purpose of it.

It's almost like an average point of maturity, like a Bar(t) Mitzvah or a Quinceanera.

The "mature" races over a significant amount of time in the beginning, tried to uplift "younger" races whether it was technological advances or even medicine. While some cases there weren't any issues and they strived, but then others end up succumbing to greed and end up going to war on their home world or something and ultimately end badly somehow. So at some point, there had to be an "Maturity" level added as in MOST cases, once a civilization has developed FTL, TYPICALLY the entire planet is working together torwards that goal of a Utopian society. Obviously there are exceptions to this as well, but I think its more of a general good/bad experience ratio that determined the needs of a civilization needing to reach Warp-Capability. And the welcoming to the rest of the galaxy is so moving to realize that your world is not the only world out there with civilization.