Discussion in 'On Topic' started by TATEROTE, Oct 18, 2009.
Anyone know where can I pick one up?
You got 20 grand?
Was gonna be a gift, fuck that
anywhere to get these though, or you gotta go through a private seller?
Actually there are semi auto M14's out there. (Different from the M1A)
That would be an M14M or M14NM
And according to the Wikipedia they are classed the same as a Real M14 being built from M14 receivers converted to semi-auto.
"Once a machinegun, always a machinegun." -ATF*
Ok, so, the closest you can get is an M1A made by Springfield Armory that contains all the US GI M14 parts that aren't part of the full auto system.
Such parts are expensive. So be prepared to pay a couple grand at least.
Funny story: Friend of mine that used to live in Kali found an auction on Gunbroker for an M14. It was from a pawn shop near L.A. Pictures showed that the rifle had the "semi-auto only" plug installed. This plug was standard issue for most troops and was swapped out for the selector switch for the Designated Automatic Rifleman.
He called the shop and said "You know that M14 you have listed is illegal right?"
They said, "Oh, yeah, but it's cool since we have a California Assault Weapons license and are selling the rifle out of state."
He says, "Uh, no. That rifle is a machinegun and is doubtfully registered."
Store guy: "Shit"
Unfortunately, what he did was turn the entire gun over to the ATF. What he should have done was strip it of parts, including the barrel if possible, and sold the GI parts kit which is probably worth as much as a new M1A. What a shame.
*This bullshit is why all our M14's will be either sold to other countries or desroyed. They will never be in the CMP.
was the plug a real one and was it a USGI receiver? If so, your buddy was right.
If you want a semi-auto M14-type, check out LRB Arms, Smith Enterprises, Norinco, PolyTech, Springfield, and I think that's it for major mfg. at present.
If you can find a lightly-used Norinco or Polytech at a decent price, that's the way to go. Might need to replace the stock though.
Fulton Armory as well
Just get a mini-14.
Polytech's and Norinco's had some issues with the bolts from what I can remember, the headspacing was slightly long and the material the bolts were made from were somewhat soft. Otherwise they're the few m1a's that you can pick up with a forged reciever, they're definately not as pretty, but I could care less.
According to most of the M14 forums I've happened across, that issue isn't as widespread as it's generally made out to be, especially with the later production guns.
Of course, if in doubt, hunt up a smith or machine shop and have them administer a hardness test to the bolt and receiver. And if it doesn't come out to your satisfaction, Smith Enterprises might still be doing their heat-treat for Chinese bolts and receivers. It's not cheap, but for the cost of a Chinese gun plus a Smith Enterprises heat-treat, you'll have a guaranteed high-quality forged M14 clone for about the same price as a cast Springfield or Fulton, and for less than a forged LRB (Smith uses their receivers, as do several other companies).