Malibu Steak/Seafood restaurant says, "Fuck it" and opens

[B-Line]

While I'm all for intelligent design, planning and implementation of guidelines to help slow the pandemic, I am not for stupid virtue signaling that effects peoples lives and businesses.
To date, there is almost no evidence that dining outside is a source of spread of Covid.
Local and state health departments have even acknowledged that dining outside does not spread Covid but they want the public to "feel safe." So they have ordered restaurants closed even though they admit, they aren't a problem.

So, Mastro's said, Fuck it and they are open for business.

Mastro's Open in Malibu for Dine-In, Despite Outdoor Dining Ban

Mastro's Ocean Club Malibu is still open for dine-in, despite the L.A. County ban on indoor and outdoor dining.

www.tmz.com

 

[Muddy Waters]

Good

 

[mdaniel]

I believe outdoor dining is relatively safe, provided that it's actually outdoors and properly distanced. I see so many restaurants with fully or 3/4 enclosed tents and people sitting back to back with their chairs almost touching. Let restaurants keen outdoor dining open, but make sure its actually done right.

 

[eK]

Bad

 

[B-Line]

Good

The latest data shows that the #1 place Covid is spreading is construction sites. There isn't even conversation of construction being shut down regardless if it's "essential construction" or just business as usual.

 

[whatever]

I believe outdoor dining is relatively safe, provided that it's actually outdoors and properly distanced. I see so many restaurants with fully or 3/4 enclosed tents and people sitting back to back with their chairs almost touching. Let restaurants keen outdoor dining open, but make sure its actually done right.

even outside. wind is gona blow the covid over to your table from upwind.

 

[B-Line]

I believe outdoor dining is relatively safe, provided that it's actually outdoors and properly distanced. I see so many restaurants with fully or 3/4 enclosed tents and people sitting back to back with their chairs almost touching. Let restaurants keen outdoor dining open, but make sure its actually done right.

Again, there is actually zero data to backup that any of the dining practices that were outdoors lead to any spread of covid.
So "feeling like" people are too close isn't the same thing as people actually being too close.

And if this is true that they are too close, shouldn't all airplanes, buses, subways, etc. also be shut down?

 

[whatever]

The latest data shows that the #1 place Covid is spreading is construction sites. There isn't even conversation of construction being shut down regardless if it's "essential construction" or just business as usual.

link?

 

[B-Line]

even outside. wind is gona blow the covid over to your table from upwind.

Your 100% right. Maybe 1000%
except for the fact this actually hasn't been an issue since outdoor dining started.

 

[whatever]

Again, there is actually zero data to backup that any of the dining practices that were outdoors lead to any spread of covid.
So "feeling like" people are too close isn't the same thing as people actually being too close.

And if this is true that they are too close, shouldn't all airplanes, buses, subways, etc. also be shut down?

New science reevaluates risks of indoor dining - The Boston Globe

Although few clusters have officially been traced to restaurants, research suggests inside eating is not necessarily a safe environment.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[mdaniel]

even outside. wind is gona blow the covid over to your table from upwind.

You're not going to get covid 6' away from someone outdoors if the air can turn over quickly. Just don't put 4 walls on your tent and call it outdoors.

 

[whatever]

Your 100% right. Maybe 1000%
except for the fact this actually hasn't been an issue since outdoor dining started.

doesnt matter now. all the outdoor dining by me is basically enclosed tents. which has got to be worse than just eating inside.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

good

 

[Type2]

A bunch in the area remained open until this weekend. Still a couple

 

[B-Line]

Intredazting, has link?

Study: Construction has the highest COVID-19 rate of nearly any industry

A new analysis found that construction workers had the highest rate of asymptomatic coronavirus cases of any occupation and the second-highest rate for those with symptoms.

www.constructiondive.com

 

[Miesha Taint]

Again, there is actually zero data to backup that any of the dining practices that were outdoors lead to any spread of covid.
So "feeling like" people are too close isn't the same thing as people actually being too close.

And if this is true that they are too close, shouldn't all airplanes, buses, subways, etc. also be shut down?

airplanes, buses, and subways are essential

eating at a restaurant is not

furthermore, you can wear a mask while traveling but you can't while eating

hth and ban for no POL tag

 

[whatever]

You're not going to get covid 6' away from someone outdoors if the air can turn over quickly. Just don't put 4 walls on your tent and call it outdoors.

6' is a feel good number.

 

[B-Line]

doesnt matter now. all the outdoor dining by me is basically enclosed tents. which has got to be worse than just eating inside.

Nope... HVAC.

 

[whatever]

airplanes, buses, and subways are essential

eating at a restaurant is not

furthermore, you can wear a mask whole traveling but you can't while eating

hth and ban for no POL tag

never mind you're putting your hands to your mouth over and over again.

 

[mdaniel]

6' is a feel good number.

Definitely better than the 0' I see at a lot of places.

 

[B-Line]

Sorry for missing POL in the thread title.. I didn't know it belonged.
Fixed.

 

[whatever]

Nope... HVAC.

tent with walls has got to be as bad for you as indoor with HVAC. agree?

 

[whatever]

Definitely better than the 0' I see at a lot of places.

sure. I also see a lot of places putting tables 6' apart and not the backs of chairs 6' apart.

 

[eK]

I live in a very red state and blue state liberals are enjoying this mess. They love what they keep insisting we call “the new normal” and lockdowns give them a sickening sense of perverse satisfaction.

 

[B-Line]

eating at a restaurant is not

Sure, but there is actually no evidence to suggest that eating in a restaurant is furthering the spread.