I've been using Winamp since version 2.0. And the new 5.1 version is a throwback to 3.0 in terms of bloatiness. First off, it adds a splash screen. No big deal. But it carries a nasty psychological effect, an uneeded extra. Second off, it's a fucking system hog. I do not have a slow machine by any means. I have an AMD Athlon XP 2500+ overclocked to 3200+ (190FSB), 1GB PC 2100 Dual Channel RAM, a Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 80GB hard drive with an 8MB cache and 7200 RPM rotational speed, a Chaintech 7NIL1 motherboard with the nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset, and a 9700 Pro. This thing makes my high end box bog down like a pig in molasses. It's fucking disgusting. A little fact about me: I like to open a shitload of applications at once. OpenOffice 2.0RC3, AIM, Firefox, and Winamp are usually opened at once with no issues. Winamp 5.1 really has a fucked up priority, bordering on time critical. Whenever I open it, any other apps being used actively (Such as Firefox, AIM, etc.) freeze up and stop responding until Winamp finishes loaded a small-ass 1MB music file from Half-Life 2. It just happened three minutes ago, and it came to the typical "FUCK THIS SHIT!" response. I've had it with this crapware. Nuked off 5.1, put 5.04 back on. Ahhh...System performance has returned. 5.1 is a great example of why I have 1GB+ of older program versions archived that I know just work, plain and simple.