CREW TECH OFFICIAL Crypto Thread - so...WHO'S HIRING???

AndyP

OT Supporter
Jun 17, 2004
18,441
Huge price discrepancy on Gemini vs Kraken for Luna. 0.10 on Gemini and 0.007 on Kraken.
 

AndyP

OT Supporter
Jun 17, 2004
18,441
Good chance to arb. I cant get anything into kraken right now because everything is locked with deposit holds
 

fuqxyu

Thank you for the alpha
OT Supporter
Feb 2, 2004
52,255
found this (TLDR)


- UST has a circulating supply of 12.12B
- It has a market cap of $7.4B
- To restore peg 12.12B - 7.4B = 4.72B of UST needs to be burned
- Terra validators have overwhelmingly agreed that this is what must be done, UST must be burned and peg must be restored
- To burn UST (and restore peg), you need to mint new LUNA
- To burn 1 UST you need to mint $1.00 worth of LUNA
- Let's do some simple math
- Say we can burn all the excess UST all at once right now, and restore peg
- To burn this 4.7B of UST we would need to mint $4.7B worth of LUNA
- At the current price of LUNA ($0.03), this means we would have to mint ~156B LUNA
- In this scenario, the circulating supply of LUNA would increase from 3.5B to ~160B (increase 45x)
- The price of LUNA will decrease to ~$0.0006
- Now you could in theory begin to slowly burn down that 160B circulating supply of LUNA (does this sound impossible and like a terrible investment? IT SHOULD SOUND IMPOSSIBLE AND LIKE A TERRIBLE INVESTMENT)
- The scenario described above is a made up fantasy and is not possible
- What's really going to happen is actually infinitely worse
- First problem: You can't burn all 4.7B UST at once because you can't mint 156B LUNA at once
- There is a limit on how much LUNA can be minted in one day
- Right now, they are voting to increase the limit
- This leads us to problem #2
- Second problem: As you mint LUNA, the price of LUNA goes down (LUNA is diluted), which means to burn more UST, you need to mint even more LUNA, until you descend into a vicious feedback loop of all out LUNA minting madness
- This is referred to by validators and people who understand the protocol as the "death spiral"
- Right now you can burn $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA
- The circulating supply of LUNA goes from 3.5B to 38.5B
- The price of LUNA is now 0.0027
- You then burn your next $1B UST by minting 1,000,000,000/0.0027 = 370B LUNA
- You burned your first $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA. The next $1B UST by minting 370B LUNA
- The next $1B UST would take trillions and trillions of LUNA
- I used $1B chunks just as an example
- Obviously the size of the burns would be much smaller as it depends on UST holders' bags
- The point is, LUNA can't recover unless they just decide to fundamentally change how the protocol works, which would result in Do Kwan and everybody else on the project being instantly indicted for fraud
 

Chris87

shyppo.com
Dec 13, 2001
13,157
Edmonton, AB
Do you have a ledger? Just follow the instructions in ledger live when you first connect it. That seed phrase at the beginning is important, do not store it digitally. Write it down.
Thanks friend! Ledger live generated a new BTC address for me. Pretty easy peasy. It's already in my Ledger and only cost like $0.19 to transfer which is great.

As for seed phrase, I hope you're talking about the seed phrase when I originally set up my Ledger? If so, yeah, that baby is locked away in a safe. I've been using a ledger for 4 years now.
 

Midgetized

Don't mess with Douche Cat
May 29, 2000
49,722
San Diego, CA
@Midgetized we need some astrology crypto shit in here
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cbpage

Lord and Savior
OT Supporter
May 19, 2009
15,093
L I N K B O Y Z VIP Club
found this (TLDR)


- UST has a circulating supply of 12.12B
- It has a market cap of $7.4B
- To restore peg 12.12B - 7.4B = 4.72B of UST needs to be burned
- Terra validators have overwhelmingly agreed that this is what must be done, UST must be burned and peg must be restored
- To burn UST (and restore peg), you need to mint new LUNA
- To burn 1 UST you need to mint $1.00 worth of LUNA
- Let's do some simple math
- Say we can burn all the excess UST all at once right now, and restore peg
- To burn this 4.7B of UST we would need to mint $4.7B worth of LUNA
- At the current price of LUNA ($0.03), this means we would have to mint ~156B LUNA
- In this scenario, the circulating supply of LUNA would increase from 3.5B to ~160B (increase 45x)
- The price of LUNA will decrease to ~$0.0006
- Now you could in theory begin to slowly burn down that 160B circulating supply of LUNA (does this sound impossible and like a terrible investment? IT SHOULD SOUND IMPOSSIBLE AND LIKE A TERRIBLE INVESTMENT)
- The scenario described above is a made up fantasy and is not possible
- What's really going to happen is actually infinitely worse
- First problem: You can't burn all 4.7B UST at once because you can't mint 156B LUNA at once
- There is a limit on how much LUNA can be minted in one day
- Right now, they are voting to increase the limit
- This leads us to problem #2
- Second problem: As you mint LUNA, the price of LUNA goes down (LUNA is diluted), which means to burn more UST, you need to mint even more LUNA, until you descend into a vicious feedback loop of all out LUNA minting madness
- This is referred to by validators and people who understand the protocol as the "death spiral"
- Right now you can burn $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA
- The circulating supply of LUNA goes from 3.5B to 38.5B
- The price of LUNA is now 0.0027
- You then burn your next $1B UST by minting 1,000,000,000/0.0027 = 370B LUNA
- You burned your first $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA. The next $1B UST by minting 370B LUNA
- The next $1B UST would take trillions and trillions of LUNA
- I used $1B chunks just as an example
- Obviously the size of the burns would be much smaller as it depends on UST holders' bags
- The point is, LUNA can't recover unless they just decide to fundamentally change how the protocol works, which would result in Do Kwan and everybody else on the project being instantly indicted for fraud

They should know that this is obviously not going to work. What is the point to keeping this up? Is there some way that they are able to personally profit from this?
 

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