Ok, so I have been given a challenge that I intend to win. Girl I'm with has never had a orgasm from sex alone. Last week her sister who had previously been worse off figured out how to have them. Now she is commited to making this happen. I am the lucky beneficiary of all the trying.... I need every suggestion OT can think of for making this happen. Here is the thing, it takes me 20+ minutes minimum to get this girl off via oral. Thats a loooooong ass time for a bare minimum to orgasm, so I'm guessing the sex is going to have to be marathon too. things im going to try: pillows under the small of the back to elevate/angle the pelvis extremely slow sex making he hold her breath when she gets close getting her drunk (shes typically a 2 drink a night max drinker) lifestyles excite sensitizing lube cervical massage blindfold honestly, i really don't think its all in her head. i honestly think this has to do with needing to do just the right thing for a looooong time. Even with sex + her using a vibrator it takes quite a while. Ok, ladies and gents, what else should I try?