Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by disblohs, Aug 21, 2007.
Rinse and repeat. Anyone do this and how has your progress been doing it?
Depends on your goals but it sounds like a feasible idea to me.
I like the sound of something like this. Is the purpose of this to maintain fat or to lose fat?
Hopefully lose fat. I finished the 4 week mass phase Friday and just started the diet phase by cutting cals ~300 cals a day and adding an additional 20 minutes to my cardio 4 days a week.
Sounds pretty dumb to me.
Well what the hell are you going to accomplish with 4 weeks of "bulking" and a whopping 2 weeks of diet?
A few pounds of gains during the mass gaining phase and loss of fat during the diet? I'm not saying this is the greatest idea ever and that's why I'm asking for opinions.
I think Timber said he does somethign similiar to this
Why not just do a clean bulk?
you sure do ask a lot o questions
All the foods in my diet stay the same during both bulking and cutting. Cutting just involves a little less calories and more cardio.
Well, staying leaner helps nutrient partitionning and insulin/leptin resistance comes fast when overeating which would alter the mass gains too.
Another 500 to 800 calories over maintenance isn't going to be that big of a deal if he puts in the work in the gym and varies his calories from time to time. It will way more beneficial than 4 weeks bulking and 2 cutting. This is more of another case of overanalyzing as mentioned in another thread last week...just do the damn thing.
this would only really work with some kind of anabolic use, if you are natty, sounds like you'll just end up in the same spot over and over or just end up slowly getting fat.
What kind of gains would you look for before a cut?
I started at 140, probably about 12%bf (5'9"). Skinnyfat, basically. I'm up to about 155 or so now over the past 3 months, feel like I've gone to maybe 15% bodyfat... so maybe 9 lbs muscle, 6 lb fat gain? My best guess, anyhow... from what the mirror tells me.
I was figuring for somewhere around 165-170 by the end of the year with a bf around what I'm at now, then cut off like 10 lbs or so at the beginning of the year (so I can do lots of HIIT around the neighborhood and avoid the new years rush at the gym for jan-feb )... see where that puts me, and start the cycle again.
Sound about right?
(natty btw, whey, creatine, and lots of food)
if most of your gains are in your gut, thats a bad sign
My guts gotten a bit softer, hence the increase in bf%. My arms/legs are definitely larger/more solid, so it's not all fat... probably somewhere around the ratio I'm guessing at.
What do you think a good bulk gain is, in terms of lbs or %bw gain?
Fuck. So the general consensus is that this is a bad idea.
How many pounds a week do you generally shoot for during a bulk? I'm thinking 1/2 - 1 lb a week is low enough to keep fat gains to a minimum.
I'm pushing closer to 2, with the mindset that I don't really give a shit about an extra lb or two of fat, I'd rather make sure I'm feeding my body at least enough to make use of the gym time... I can always knock a couple lbs off later.
You aren't going to get shit done in 4 weeks bulking, or 2 weeks cutting. Stick to shit for longer if you want to get anywhere.