Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Jyokker, Feb 7, 2008.
Who's with me?
i think it should be lower
and the reasoning behind this is...?
The physical standards are already sort of higher for officers. Before the flaming starts, let me explain. A PFC can get by with anything above a 180, which is the standard according to the Army. An Officer can catch some heat if they score pretty much anything below 250. Ive heard of some battalion commanders that wont allow any officers in their unit if they score in the low 200's.
It should be higher. They don't do shit most of the day sitting in their offices flirting via email with their PFC's and shit.. They should be able to take some extra time of their "busy" schedule and go work on their PFT. I fucking hate officers.
Doesn't matter. Most officers I know are highly in-shape. Why? The get to do whatever the hell they want to do. Most of the time they sit in their office, get square meals, and set aside for time in the gym.
I have yet to see an officer that's as fit as the vast majority of enlisted and NCOs
In support I'd like to present the fact that the only people who fell out of our PT sessions at airborne school were officers.
Dont worry, Im certain they arent very fond of you either
As far as these officers that flirt with PFCs and stuff, all I can say is theres shitbag officers just like theres shitbag NCOs, Warrants, and Enlisted.
Sucks to be them. They should have been ready for the school and able to uphold the standards. If they get dropped from the class, they will have a not too pleasant face to face with the old man.
Lemme guess, you just recently had a bad experience....
i'm not with you. if they work on PT more often, what happens to the time they need to be spending acquiring common sense?
Nope, I plan to become an officer. When I think of leading people, I think that leaders should be held to a higher standard, not an imaginary unwritten standard, but a documented higher standard.
You get paid more to perform more, in all aspects, including physical fitness.
In the AF, officers aren't held to a higher standard of physical fitness. While, there may be an unwritten rule, there is not a documented standard.
common sense cannot be aquired. thank you, please come again!
We have a gym on site. I sometimes go twice a day. I see two to three officers in there in the morning, and I see about twelve enlisted and one officer in the afternoon. While we are a small group, the officer turn out is not a good percentage of the whole.
Officers are generally held to higher PT standards. Believe me, I'm a cadet right now and I hear it all the fucking time. My philosophy is don't be a shitbag no matter what your job is.
A good deal of our maintenance officers are working almost 24/7. I know when I work midshift and send out a mxg/cc notification he almost always responds back within seconds even though he works days, stays in his office downstairs into the wee hours of the night, and somehow shows up before 0700 every day. They're paid for their hard work, not to screw off at the gym two or three times a day.
Word. I would like to add that all the officers at my ROTC score high and often times into the extended scale. Hopefully I can maintain my 320 when I'm an officer. My average last semester was 295. Shootin for 300 this semester
Physical standards should be higher.
does watching that animation count as my PT for the week?
The highest scores in my squadron came from the Commander and Lt.
Of course! We can go back to watching TV, not working, or otherwise being worthless now
Some hatin going on in this thread.
Air Force is basically civilians with uniforms.
It's all about getting the job done not running through enemy fire.
lol....exactly, doesnt that explain the look they always have on their faces? that "i'm looking for something but can't remember what it is" look?