interesting stuff that applies to a few in this forum, just thought Id post this. ---------------------- It is not surprising to us. It is just another cheap fake. How can anybody believe hGH with no labels and no names? It is mostly likely the website we listed like ammetals.com who has been selling cheap hGH with no labels and no names(well they used to claim it is just jintropin on their website), but they come up with a new marketing strategy. I believe these fakes does have a market since bodybuilders are paying out of their own pocket, and they are very ignorant of the necessary knowledge about hGH. For example, we noticed in the past: 1. although many brand of fake hGH give rashes and welts in the injection site, people just think that it is normal. In fact it is due to E.coli impurities; 2. people don't really understand that besides the difference of 191 and 192, there is purity difference. which means E.coli impurities and endotoxins make a lot of difference in quality too; 3. with low quality hGH, people can develop antibodies to hGH fast and gradually the effect of hGH will be less and less; 4. people believe that all brands of hGH come from China are all the same. They don't know some of them, like jintropin is formally approved by the government while many other fakes are not a real plant at all(like the one you just mentioned); Lastly, Gensci has been around in almost 10years and there are sure many ex-gensci people. But just being in Gensci doesn't not mean they can product quality hGH. To make a complicated biologics in high quality is not easy. That's why EU has a very complicated process in approving generic biologics, they want a separate clinial trial for each new brand, unlike traditional chemical generics, which don't require additional clinical trial for approval.