Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by timberwolf, Feb 18, 2006.
Do you take them even after just cardio?
you use entirely too many expressions in your post
what do you do for PWO shakes? I think a high glycemic shake would be pointless after cardio.
Exactly. All I did was 20min cardio, calves and abs.
I take 22 g protein and 50g of a dextrose/ malto blend usually.
As getjacked pointed out... there's a difference between a 'normal' protein shake and post workout one. Mainly the high glycemic carbs.
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POST WORKOUT shake. So you're otherwise replenishing glycogen levels with the carbs in the 3 cups of milk?
it depends on the intensity of the cardio....if you're just walking, no
Just 20 min of running at average pace. 4 min warmup at 3-3.5mph and then 16min at 6.5-8 mph.
my pwo shake is always 50g maltodextrin/25whey/5g glutamine.
after cardio (45 min jog) its always just 25g whey and 5g glutamine.
i don't put any high glycemic carbs in my post work-out shake
i just use WPI instead of normal whey
I would probably take in some carbs if you are not on a keto type of diet.
Dextrose and Malto is probably wayy overkill though as I dont think you need that type of insulin spike.
I would probably get my carbs from more whole sources like milk(or yogurt) or some higher carb fruit(grapes, bananas, dates, etc).
I would take some whey with no carbs if fat loss is your goal
Even on a low carb diet I'd take carb post-workout because the carbs will make your body go from a catabolic state to an anabolic state which promotes muscle growth. Low Insulin Index (glycemic index and insulin index are not exactly the same) would be better because they will not make the insulin go high that much and insulin lowers testosterone levels (so preworkout carb are not always that great, but I'm not sure how much it counts). Higher insulin will release cholesterol in the blow flow though, which will facilitate the production of new cells (in this case, muscular cells).
So my take on this is to train on an empty stomach and get carbs and proteins post-workout to replenish glycogen in your muscles and reup your glycemia (or whatever it's called in English).
1. The question was about carbs after cardio.
2. Its pretty well known that you want high glycemic carbs with protein after weight training. I'm pretty sure training on an empty stomach is a very bad idea.
Well, the title was misleading
I've always pretty much trained on an empty stomach actually. I train about an hour of waking up and eating anything within that time always affected my workout negatively...nausea, etc.
I know it goes against conventional wisdom on the matter....
I dont like to train after eating cause i feel lethargic and get nauseated too
If i were you, i'd take a protein shake after cardio. It's logical, you don't want to really replenish the carbs you just expended, but you don't want to lose lbm.
A protein shake with water and minimal carbs would be the best idea to take.
It probably won't induce AS much of an anabolic effect without the insulin (from high glycemic carbs), but it would probably be enough to repair the muscles you just broke down from running.
yea i have too a couple times but i just get a lot more tired and burnt out by the end of the workout.
if i eat a medium meal 30-40 min before the workout its seems perfect for me.
drink a pwo protien shake with amino acids after you lift or do cardio