I think you're getting the response you are because the groups claiming the west incited this war are using the same language, tbh. So it has become a kremlin talking point that the west is using Ukraine as a proxy to fight them, even though in reality they're getting the causal relationship RE: the west's involvement completely backwards.
Probably. But just because Russia is the bad guy here doesn’t make the statements wrong. (My statements, not the statement that the west incited it).I think you're getting the response you are because the groups claiming the west incited this war are using the same language, tbh.
Yeah. I absolutely agree that at this point it has become a proxy war for NATO against Russia. I have no issue with that statement, and I think absent the Kremlin's propaganda campaign most people would readily acknowledge that reality. But that's what happens when Russia invades a sovereign nation, the nations most likely to be impacted by that aggression's success are going to do whatever they can to support the victim of Russian aggression. The fact that the nations most impacted are NATO members created the conditions for this proxy war, and that's a fact Russia knew going into it... they just gambled that NATO would react like they did in 2014.
I think you are seeing some of the responses you are because the "proxy war" narrative is one that is generally meant to reduce the conflict in Ukraine from one where a country is justly defending itself from invasion (a setting in which Russia is the clear wrongdoer), to one in which the conflict is perpetuated not in the interest of or with the agency of Ukraine, but by elite outside powers sacrificing poor Ukraine for its own goals.
Sure, that’s why I’ve repeatedly tried to explain why I’m asking what I’m asking.
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I don't give a shit about russia or what it wants to call this. Proxy war? Sure. Have at it. russia still getting their shit pushed in either way.
I feel like I heard numbers like 20k for the "International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine"
I think there is pretty significant medical concerns with giving their pilots a10s. After every combat mission the pilots have to see a doctor. Because their erections lasted for more than 4 hours.
Yes. I can blame Russia. Russia was treating it as a proxy war against NATO before they even invaded.
I don't think they are accepting just anyone, even if they volunteered and did show up. I have no info on how many made it through training and whatever.
I think you're getting the response you are because the groups claiming the west incited this war are using the same language, tbh. So it has become a kremlin talking point that the west is using Ukraine as a proxy to fight them, even though in reality they're getting the causal relationship RE: the west's involvement completely backwards.
