I think you're getting the response you are because the groups claiming the west incited this war are using the same language, tbh. So it has become a kremlin talking point that the west is using Ukraine as a proxy to fight them, even though in reality they're getting the causal relationship RE: the west's involvement completely backwards.I’m not acting like anything. I asked a question as to why it seems outlandish to call it a proxy war considering the aforementioned. This isn’t an emotional question. Y’all just mash your keys with outrage without considering it’s just a question. My name ain’t Putin.