SRS Putin declares war in Ukraine, surprising no one

Mazy D.

Ukrainian OG
Oct 10, 2000
33,852
Canada
Russians demolishing another city
I really don't get the point of this strategy. So they grab land but are they going to rebuild any of the cities considering that they don't spend on existing infrastructure (outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg and maybe a few more big cities) and most of their country lives in poverty. Ok, so their empire grows, but the newly added territories are going to be just as poor, corrupted and oppressed as most of Russia. What's the point of all this?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Faithless

PanzerAce

OT Supporter
Feb 25, 2006
8,289
Russians demolishing another city
I really don't get the point of this strategy. So they grab land but are they going to rebuild any of the cities considering that they don't spend on existing infrastructure (outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg and maybe a few more big cities) and most of their country lives in poverty. Ok, so their empire grows, but the newly added territories are going to be just as poor, corrupted and oppressed as most of Russia. What's the point of all this?

No, they don't want there to be a concept of Ukraine. So they're going to plow under any trace that the country existed if they can, and that includes destroying the towns. Destroy the town, ship the residents out to the far east, ban mention of where they're from. Two generations down the line and they aren't Ukrainian anymore.
 
  • Like
Reactions: smell my finger

Vanilla Tarantino

OT Supporter
Sep 25, 2002
29,062
Bay Area
Russians demolishing another city
I really don't get the point of this strategy. So they grab land but are they going to rebuild any of the cities considering that they don't spend on existing infrastructure (outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg and maybe a few more big cities) and most of their country lives in poverty. Ok, so their empire grows, but the newly added territories are going to be just as poor, corrupted and oppressed as most of Russia. What's the point of all this?

1) Gain access to the resources in that area (oil/gas).
2) Move front lines.
3) Claim some sort of victory.
4) Eliminate the idea of Ukraine and the Ukrainian identity.
 

ludewig

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2000
9,373
Houston! Texas!

Key Takeaways
  • The Kremlin recently replaced the commander of the Russian Airborne (VDV) forces and may have fired the commander of the Southern Military District and appointed a new overall commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, indicating ongoing dysfunction in the Kremlin’s conduct of the war.
  • Russian forces conducted several successful advances in settlements southeast of Severodonetsk on June 21 and may be able to threaten Lysychansk in the coming days while avoiding a difficult opposed crossing of the Siverskyi Donets River.
  • Russian forces continued to launch assaults on settlements along the T1302 Lysychansk-Bakhmut highway to interdict Ukrainian ground lines of communications (GLOCs).
  • Russian operations along the Izyum-Slovyansk axis are increasingly stalled as Russian forces prioritize operations around Severodonetsk.
  • Russian forces likely recaptured the eastern bank of the Inhulets River from the Ukrainian bridgehead situated near the Kherson-Mykolaiv Oblast border.
  • Ukrainian forces reportedly struck Russian positions on Snake Island in the Black Sea, likely to destroy Russian fortifications and equipment on the island, but ISW cannot confirm competing Ukrainian and Russian claims of the results of the attack.
  • Russian occupation authorities are continuing to face challenges recruiting local collaborators and are likely relying on Russian government personnel to consolidate their societal control of occupied Ukrainian territories.
1655859260395.png
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mazy D. and cbpage

Mazy D.

Ukrainian OG
Oct 10, 2000
33,852
Canada
From the interview with a Russian billionaire Konstantin Malofeev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeev


For a Russian president to turn into an emperor and for Russia to turn into an empire is the logical conclusion from all the research that I and a group of scientists have conducted over four years. Russia can only be an empire - this is its real and only possible form of existence. Without a great mission, we, Russians, are no different from Ukrainians - the same as they are: by genotype, by blood. We are united by all but one thing: we have an imperial idea, but they do not.

Right now we are an authoritarian state, thank God. We are controlled by one center of power: that is why Russia has not yet disintegrated, defying constant attempts to destroy us through hybrid, digital, economic, any other war waged against us. We have survived because we rule as the empire rules.

 
  • Haha
Reactions: Stylerod

Users who are viewing this thread

About Us

  • Please do not post anything that violates any Local, State, Federal or International Laws. Your privacy is protected. You have the right to be forgotten. Site funded by advertising, link monetization and member support.
OT v15.9.0 Copyright © 2000-2022 Offtopic.com
Served by fu.offtopic.com

Online statistics

Members online
210
Guests online
52
Total visitors
262

Forum statistics

Threads
74,580
Messages
7,247,255
Members
86,955
Latest member
Msds