SRS Putin declares war in Ukraine, surprising no one

Jacko

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She had previously made an appearance the day after the beginning of the invasion on state-controlled TV talk show Time Will Tell condemning the Ukrainian government for arming civilians to repel Russian assaults on cities.[160] She claimed that Russia was not bombing Ukraine, and suggested that the Ukrainians were bombing themselves.[161]


launch that cunt into low earth orbit.
 

Dylith

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If anything positive comes out of this war for Ukraine, I hope it is a stronger sense of unity and cohesion as a nation and more civil minded institutions. It is in a situation where corruption can be (rightfully) painted as treason and more effectively fought against.
 
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Jacko

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If anything positive comes out of this war for Urkaine, I hope it is a stronger sense of unity and cohesion as a nation and more civil minded institutions. It is in a situation where corruption can be (rightfully) painted as treason and more effectively fought against.
i am sure any countries with marginalized national identities are feeling the same way
 

Gaunt

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The twitter bots were going nuts today after that article too, essentially blaming UA for every bad things that's happened in this war that RU started.

It is mind numbing.
That's some grade a victim blaming. If she didnt want to get hit, she shouldn't have been in the way of his fist.
 

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Amnesty International says Ukraine’s tactics have endangered civilian lives, drawing a fierce rebuke.

Usually it is Russia, the aggressor in the nearly six-month war in Ukraine, that is accused of violating humanitarian law.

But Amnesty International turned its sights on Ukraine on Thursday, releasing a report that accused Ukrainian forces of putting civilian lives at risk. The report quickly drew fierce condemnation from Ukrainian officials.

The report said that Ukrainian soldiers had set up military bases in schools and hospitals and had launched strikes from residential areas, drawing retaliatory Russian fire that put civilians at risk. Amnesty said that it had documented a pattern of Ukraine violating the laws of war when its forces operated in populated areas.

The residential areas where Ukrainian soldiers based themselves were usually not the only option available to them, according to the report, which said that there were “military bases or densely wooded areas nearby” that they could have used instead.

Though the report noted that Ukraine’s tactics did not justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks on civilians, the response from Ukrainian officials was swift and angry. They dismissed the criticism, pointing out that it was Russia’s invasion that had put the lives of civilians at risk.

“The only thing that poses a threat to Ukrainians is Russia’s army of executioners and rapists coming to Ukraine to commit genocide,” wrote Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to the Ukrainian president, on Twitter.

Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, accused Amnesty of making a false comparison.

“This behavior of Amnesty International is not about finding and reporting the truth to the world, it is about creating a false balance between the criminal and the victim,” he said in a video address to the nation. He added: “Please stop creating a false reality where everyone is a little guilty of something.”

Ukraine’s deputy defense minister, Hanna Maliar, said Russia’s strategy of trying to capture and hold populated areas was driving Ukrainian forces to operate in them too. “While we wait for the Russian enemy in the field, as some people sometimes advise us, the Russians will simply occupy all our houses,” she said.

Officials in Ukraine have issued numerous warnings for civilians to evacuate areas close to and caught up in the fighting. Residential areas are regularly evacuated, but not everyone wants to move, Ms. Maliar added.

The alternative tactics that Amnesty is suggesting Ukrainian forces follow — to base themselves in woods or structures further away from residential areas — are not realistic, according to John Spencer, a retired U.S. Army major and a specialist in urban warfare studies with the Madison Policy Forum.

“To say, ‘Don’t be in the urban areas’ doesn’t make sense,” he said. “The Russians are advancing to take cities. Ukrainians have to go into defense in the cities to stop that from happening.”

He added: “If the Ukrainians moved out into the open and brought the fight to the Russian military, the war would have already ended — they would have all died.”

Amnesty International, which has also repeatedly accused Russia of war crimes, stood by its report. On Thursday morning, its secretary general, Agnes Callamard, commented on Twitter: “To those who attack us alleging biases against Ukraine, I say: check our work. We stand by all victims. Impartially.”

— Ruth Maclean and Maria Varenikova
 

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Amnesty International says Ukraine’s tactics have endangered civilian lives, drawing a fierce rebuke.

Usually it is Russia, the aggressor in the nearly six-month war in Ukraine, that is accused of violating humanitarian law.

But Amnesty International turned its sights on Ukraine on Thursday, releasing a report that accused Ukrainian forces of putting civilian lives at risk. The report quickly drew fierce condemnation from Ukrainian officials.

The report said that Ukrainian soldiers had set up military bases in schools and hospitals and had launched strikes from residential areas, drawing retaliatory Russian fire that put civilians at risk. Amnesty said that it had documented a pattern of Ukraine violating the laws of war when its forces operated in populated areas.

The residential areas where Ukrainian soldiers based themselves were usually not the only option available to them, according to the report, which said that there were “military bases or densely wooded areas nearby” that they could have used instead.

Though the report noted that Ukraine’s tactics did not justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks on civilians, the response from Ukrainian officials was swift and angry. They dismissed the criticism, pointing out that it was Russia’s invasion that had put the lives of civilians at risk.

“The only thing that poses a threat to Ukrainians is Russia’s army of executioners and rapists coming to Ukraine to commit genocide,” wrote Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to the Ukrainian president, on Twitter.

Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, accused Amnesty of making a false comparison.

“This behavior of Amnesty International is not about finding and reporting the truth to the world, it is about creating a false balance between the criminal and the victim,” he said in a video address to the nation. He added: “Please stop creating a false reality where everyone is a little guilty of something.”

Ukraine’s deputy defense minister, Hanna Maliar, said Russia’s strategy of trying to capture and hold populated areas was driving Ukrainian forces to operate in them too. “While we wait for the Russian enemy in the field, as some people sometimes advise us, the Russians will simply occupy all our houses,” she said.

Officials in Ukraine have issued numerous warnings for civilians to evacuate areas close to and caught up in the fighting. Residential areas are regularly evacuated, but not everyone wants to move, Ms. Maliar added.

The alternative tactics that Amnesty is suggesting Ukrainian forces follow — to base themselves in woods or structures further away from residential areas — are not realistic, according to John Spencer, a retired U.S. Army major and a specialist in urban warfare studies with the Madison Policy Forum.

“To say, ‘Don’t be in the urban areas’ doesn’t make sense,” he said. “The Russians are advancing to take cities. Ukrainians have to go into defense in the cities to stop that from happening.”

He added: “If the Ukrainians moved out into the open and brought the fight to the Russian military, the war would have already ended — they would have all died.”

Amnesty International, which has also repeatedly accused Russia of war crimes, stood by its report. On Thursday morning, its secretary general, Agnes Callamard, commented on Twitter: “To those who attack us alleging biases against Ukraine, I say: check our work. We stand by all victims. Impartially.”

— Ruth Maclean and Maria Varenikova

yeah, ultimately it is Amnesty International asking Ukraine to send their military out to get slaughtered. I'd be curious to know who involved in the report's production has been getting paychecks from the Kremlin at AI, because their solution is basically "serve yourselves to the Russian military on a platter."
 

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