Putin declares war in Ukraine, surprising no one

Tomash

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I'm guessing the tech would rely heavily on semiconductor type hardware that they would find difficult to reproduce? Haven't seen much in the last 4,000 pages that suggest they have the abilities to manufacture the latest technology. I mean - do you know how many yachts you can get with a "latest technology" budget?

Jokes aside - the sooner we send a message to them that this is absolutely unwinnable, the sooner everyone can go home and young men and women on both sides can stop dying.
I'm pretty sure after 2022's losses they're definitely operating their latest technology.
 
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Jacko

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I'm pretty sure after 2022's losses they're definitely operating their latest technology.
the only reason we dont see some new special weapon russia is supposedly developing is because it doesnt exist or it doesnt work.

theyre going to use all their most fancy stuff before they go ahead and escalate to a new level
 
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whatever

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the only reason we dont see some new special weapon russia is supposedly developing is because it doesnt exist or it doesnt work.

theyre going to use all their most fancy stuff before they go ahead and escalate to a new level

nothing from russia has been actually created in volume since 1991.

and prior USSR stuff was simple and reliable. but not meant for long term use.
 
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wildflower

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Serious question -

so 100 high-tech tanks will be sent to Ukraine.
What difference will that make?
Russia started the whole thing with a bunch of tanks, and I've seen tons of videos of them getting blown up by drones.
Yes, these will be better, but 100 tanks spread out over the entire battlefield seems thin.
 

whatever

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Serious question -

so 100 high-tech tanks will be sent to Ukraine.
What difference will that make?
Russia started the whole thing with a bunch of tanks, and I've seen tons of videos of them getting blown up by drones.
Yes, these will be better, but 100 tanks spread out over the entire battlefield seems thin.

you let those tanks dip their treads into the sand at Prymorsk and now you got something going on.
 

Tomash

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Long-range cruise missiles would be the best thing to get. Destroy all their airfields and garrisons, game over. Most likely nuke missile time at that point though
Good start would be a mass attack on Sevastopol or Novorossiysk and sinking of the entire Black Sea Fleet. At least that would cut down on cruise missile carriers.
 
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Dr. Charisma

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Abrams has been training for this...














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not lying when i say there is a significant amount of blood flowing to my gentlemans sausage when i picture ukrainians finally rolling around in abrahams
 

Tomash

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Aug 31, 2003
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Serious question -

so 100 high-tech tanks will be sent to Ukraine.
What difference will that make?
Russia started the whole thing with a bunch of tanks, and I've seen tons of videos of them getting blown up by drones.
Yes, these will be better, but 100 tanks spread out over the entire battlefield seems thin.
Russia may have had thousands of tanks, but had no idea how to use them effectively.
 
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CommanderFish

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Serious question -

so 100 high-tech tanks will be sent to Ukraine.
What difference will that make?
Russia started the whole thing with a bunch of tanks, and I've seen tons of videos of them getting blown up by drones.
Yes, these will be better, but 100 tanks spread out over the entire battlefield seems thin.
You are going to see them used in advantages positions, like counter attacks and not just throwing them away in the open. Let's be clear though, we are still far behind on what they need to win.
 
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JaimeZX

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I mean, we do still operate the B52, C130, U2, and KC135- all products of the 1950s. The B52's role has dramatically changed over the years but the Bear is still doing the same shit the same way.
Not rly. Tu-95 has new engines and only carries external payloads. Bomb bay doors are welded shut, IIRC.

B-52s gonna fly forever


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BUT WHY STILL EIGHT ENGINES? wtf
 

Mercedes

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Feb 14, 2003
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Orlando FL
Looks like specifically Morocco may have given Ukraine 20 T-72B tanks:

Morocco sold an unknown number of T-72B tanks to be modernized in the Czech Republic and deployed to Ukraine, media reported on Sunday.
According to an Algerian news outlet Menadefense, the Moroccan army sent nearly 20 vehicles to the battlefield last week. They have been reportedly modernized by the Czech company Excalibur Army in the Czech town of Sternbeck.
It sounds like the US has also incentivized moves like this:

The United States had earlier promised financial aid to countries that decide to get rid of their Russian or Soviet military equipment. The report suggests that the Moroccan T-72s sent to Ukraine could be later replaced with M1 Abrams from the American military surplus
 

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