Putin declares war in Ukraine, surprising no one

[garbagemanlb]

We gonna get another Kherson feint? Russia fears an attack so devotes forces then collapses on another front?

 

[CommanderFish]

I ha

Do you think the West has given them enough armor to get the job done?

It's already in motion

 

[CommanderFish]

Once you see western armor in videos is your breaking point. Donbas is done

 

[CommanderFish]

We are at the Russian culmination point

 

[SR_71]

 

[SR_71]

 

[ludewig]

Why are they driving back and forth?
Don't these vehicles have guns? Why not just roll over Russian positions?

This sounds right from the comments:

"That is not storming. They are testing the enemies strength in what is probably a strong position. Push in passed the friendly lines with some light armor, see what the enemy does. Pull back and do it again. If they can't counter the light vehicles move in your heavy units. Once the heavy (tanks) move past your lines, clear your trenches of infantry and push with the armor. Then you are storming the enemy in force with Armor and Infantry supporting the armor to make a new line to hold where the enemy was entrenched.
*They are testing the enemies strength in this video, which is badass and you don't see videos of this from modern warfare. This war is crazy, its WW1, 2 and Afghanistan all mixed into one with fighting styles."

 

[ludewig]

 

[SR_71]

 

[Dr. Charisma]

we need to use the term muscovite more btw. seems like it really grinds their gears because in their minds it robs them of their "glorious" ruzzian imperial glory and pride or something

 

[wildflower]

We gonna get another Kherson feint? Russia fears an attack so devotes forces then collapses on another front?

I think whatever Ukraine does, they're smart enough that it's going to be an utter surprise.

 

[SR_71]

 

[SR_71]

 

[Cyan Connect]

This is a good start, in my opinion.

 

[cbpage]

This is a good start, in my opinion.

Bruh- their "serious propositions" don't include leaving all of Ukraine and returning the territory they've illegally annexed. It's no start at all and is just trying to paint UA/the West as the war mongers.

 

[victor77]

Right before they know they're about to get destroyed by NATO armor. Huh.

 

[victor77]

 

[spiko]

We're "really, really serious this time guys..." All while Putin takes a victory lap in Crimea today.

If the Kremlin is talking don't believe a word out of their mouth.

 

[cbpage]

We're "really, really serious this time guys..." All while Putin takes a victory lap in Crimea today.

If the Kremlin is talking don't believe a word out of their mouth.

Serious propositions must include the following-

1. Russia gets to Crimea
2. Russia gets to keep the Donbas
3. Removal of Zelensky and installation of a Russian approved leader
4. Demilitarization of UA
5. Neutral status for UA

 

[CommanderFish]

This is a good start, in my opinion.

Ukraine is about to negotiate from a position of power, Russia knows their position is slipping away. You don't go to the table if you don't need to

 

[victor77]

Ukraine is about to negotiate from a position of power, Russia knows that is slipping away. You don't go to the table if you don't need to

They're also playing the political game of giving those in NATO countries who don't fully support the arming of UA the ability to say "Well russia offered peace talks and UA refused, so they are in the wrong."

It's all theater.

 

[CommanderFish]

Even if peace is reached, Ukraine is going to build an advanced military with western support. In a few years they will dictate the entire situation with Poland beside them.

 

[CommanderFish]

They're also playing the political game of giving those in NATO countries who don't fully support the arming of UA the ability to say "Well russia offered peace talks and UA refused, so they are in the wrong."

It's all theater.

I don't even listen to any of that, Hungarian leadership can be discared IMHO. So many people from Hungary died to the Nazi's and then the Soviets. Is disgusting where they are now.

A large portion of the conservative party is stricken with Stockholm syndrome

 

[JaimeZX]

Fake! Does not have annoying watermark bouncing around.

 

[DizzyEdge]

Full withdrawal plus reparations. Nothing less.