MIL Security clearance question

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  1. Casino

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    I'm filling out paperwork for my security clearance. At one point it asks if I ever had counseling for alcohol abuse. I've been written up at school for alcohol and they make you attend a mandatory alcohol class. I've never gotten in any legal trouble or any other counseling other than that. Is that something I need to put on the form anyways?
     
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    if its traceable and anyone else knows about it, yes
     
  3. DaRkPhAnToM

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    hmm. yeah i would put it. if it pops up and you said no that will fuck you out of the clearance most likely. but being honest about it most likely won't. main thing they look for is being honest and not being in debt a lot from what i have been told...
     
  4. Casino

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    Yea, I'm going to put it on. Is this something that will affect me being approved?
     
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    You will get asked about it during your interview more than likely. As long as it wasnt a terrible incident and you show that you dont have any big problems with it you should be fine
     
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    are you in the military already?
     
  7. Casino

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    I'm in ROTC. During the junior year, they require all cadets to be approved for a security clearance.
     
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    it's hard to say. they look for various shit in clearance so see how easily a spy or whoever can get to you. they look for honesty which is common sense. they look for if you got debt problems (spy can pay you) and i would imagine they do look at alcohol related instances (spy can get you drunk easy and you talk)...
     
  9. Jyokker

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    Debt problems and any criminal problems are deal breakers right now.
     
  10. Casino

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    I have never been charged criminally. If I smoked Marijuana a total of 6 times and the last time was 2/2008, will that get me rejected from the clearance?
     
  11. Casino

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    I looked more into it and there is no interview. I do not want to put the school alcohol write up in because it's just from the school, not from the actual legal system, but I feel like I should. I gotta put the marijuana in because I took a police background check a couple years ago and that is on my record that I've smoked before.
     
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    if there is no interview its just a secret clearance....which basically means jack shit...you should be fine
     
  13. geekboy

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    everyone in the military is an alcoholic
     
  14. Jeg1983

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    Yes put it in, they will look at your school records.
     
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    Put it down. its a one time minor offense. Its not going to hurt you. I Had PFCs that had financial issues and drug or alcohol offenses that still hold a secret clearance.
     
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    the other 10% smoke/dip
     
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    They ask: "Have you ever been arrested?" Not: "Have you ever been charged?" There is a huge difference. Write the correct answer, and they will ask you about it. No worries if you haven't been charged.
     
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    This is exactly what it says.

    Has your use of alcohol had a negative impact on your work performance, your professional or personal relationships, your finances, or resulted in intervention by law enforcement/safety personnel?

    Have you ever been ordered, advised, or asked to seek counseling or treatment as a result of your alcohol?

    Have you received counseling or treatment as a result of your alcohol?
     
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    put it down

    there is a paper trail about it
     
  21. Jyokker

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    It is kind of a test to see if you will be honest. Just be glad you don't have to do a polygraph.
     
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    i'm in the same EXACT position you are in. Junior going into ROTC. Filling out my Security forms
     
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    Just recently redid mine. This time just Secret instead of TS/SCI -no polygraph(what I needed when I was AD). I was totally honest. Put stuff I didn't want too.
     
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    just lie, i did
     
  25. Parris04

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    For your secret. NO

    For your T/S. yes, yes, and umm......yes. Even more if this happened while you were already in and not before. I had a TON of shit I did before I came in and it has not affected my career at all. Just be honest, but if this is something that happened while you are in uniform.....it could hurt you.

    I still would not lie about it.
     

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