I disappeared for a little bit, new job and the band is in a one month pre production. Anyway, I stopped hitting the gym for a month and now I'm going back sunday. I had been doing Starting Strength when I switched off the stickied Pur routine. The starting strength was Monday, Wed, Fri alternating with Squats bench deads squats standing military pendlay rows I saw some huge strength gains and I was definitely getting a little bigger (I have a shitload of stretch marks now). But to be honest, I think what was helping the most was the low volume. Purs routine is just too much volume for a skinny douche like myself. That being said, if I were to go back to the Mon - Legs 4 sets leg ext 10-15reps 4 sets squat 6-10 reps 3 sets leg press 10-12 reps 4 sets leg curl 10-12reps 3 set db stiff legged or walking lunges Tues - Chest 4 sets incline db or barbell 8-12 3 sets flat db or barbell 8-12 3 sets db fly or machine 12-12 reps 2 sets weighted dips WED OFF thur - back bodyweight pullups 4 sets upto 15 bent over row barbell or db 4 sets 8-12 front pulldown wide or narrow (switch it up) 3 sets 8-10 cable row 3 sets 6-10 behind the head(ya ya they're bad blah blah blah) 2 sets 15 reps Medium easy weight...just squeeze. fri - shoulders/arm 3 sets db press or front military 8-10 3 sets side laterals 10-12 3 sets reaer lateral machine or db 10-12 6 sets shrugs behind the back for 3 sets and too the front for 3 tris 3 sets 10-15 rope pushdown 3 sets french curl bar or machine 6-10 3 sets reversed push down (palms facing) 8-10 bis 3 sets barbell curl or cambered bar 8-12 3 sets preacher machine or db/barbell 8-12 2 sets hammer curl db or rope 10-15 wrist curls 13-20 reps 2 sets Do abs mon-thur Do calves tue-fri what could I cut out from each day to lower the volume? Pur had recommended awhile ago cutting out the bullshit and doing lower reps on the compounds. Any suggestions? I know I really dont need preachers, incline, behind the head lat pulldowns. Anythign else?