Well I went trap shooting today with my brother and Dad. My brother has a 12 gauge 28" semi auto, my dad has a 12 gauge 28" pump and I have an 18 1/2 inch 20 gauge pump It was the first time I've been trap shooting, so consider that...but the results were as follows round one (brother/dad/me) 18/14/9 round two (brother/dad/me) 18/18/8 I figured I just sucked because I was new and didn't know what I was doing. All for round 3 my Dad asked if I wanted to switch with him, so I did. round three (brother/dad/me) 22/17/4 So I improved by about 10 hits. All of these numbers are out of 25. In my Dads defense for when he used my gun, he wasn't using target load, but just the stuff you get for like $15 at Walmart, haha. Anyhow...I was tied with my brother after 10 shots in the third round. That son of a bitch looked at me after 15 shots and smirked when we told each other scores (I was down 1). Needless to say, I need a new gun. I did enjoy shooting, but I can't let my brother get the best of me like that. Onto the question. He has a Remington 1100 I believe. I didn't shoot his, but my Dads gun is an old Winchester 870 I believe. Neither are specific to sporting clays or anything like that. What gun do you guys suggest I look into? I'm considering a Winchester Super X2 Magnum 3". Is it worth it to get the 3 1/2" for another $100 or so? The 3" is $719 when all is said and done. I don't really want to spend that much, but I might because odds are the shotgun will be around for the rest of my life anyhow. I really like the Winchester Super X2 SIgnature II, with the red and black, but I can't find anyone who has it. And I think it would be close to $1000 if not a little over as well. So it might be too much. Cliffs: Brother gave me a "look" during trap shooting and I need a new gun for it.