Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Aviator, May 7, 2006.
...do I see AR's and pistol grip shotties in every gun shop I go to here?
Probably Cali legal ARs that you have to break open to load, and the shotty is legal so long as it doesnt have both a folding/telescoping stock and a pistol grip, one or the other is fine.
Ahh, i see.
I hate this fucking state.
Buy your off-list receiver yet?
BTW does anyone know if the Saiga .410 is CA legal? I know the 12 guage isnt since it has the magazine and is obivously a shotgun, but could the 410 be considered a rifle?
Its a good read if you are ever going to consider anything that might be remotely illegal in Cali.
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2006.pdf - DOJ also has a lot of good info, but I agree Calguns is the best for everything even non-AR/AK related.
no. A shotgun is a shotgun. As for the .410, it is still illegal AFAIK. but folding stock + pistol grip is legal IIRC.
A big plus one for CGN though, Im PanzerAce over there as well.
chances are the ARs are pre-ban, or they have found some way around the legislation.
because scared ass fuckers
OH MY GOD IT LOOKS SCARY BAN IT
a gun is a gun, they all shoot bullets, who care if someone likes having one that looks cool
Theres no way around the legislation. Either its legal or not legal. Most people with post-ban ARs simply fix the magazine so it is not detachable without the use of a tool. No detachable magazine = legal with a pistol grip.
But I was at a gun show today and saw a Bushmaster with a FIXED INTERNAL magazine. Yea, those are hot sellers.
I order my AR lower on Monday
lol, the funny thing about the Cali bushmaster is that it came out like a month before this off list stuff hit, so they havent sold NEARLY as much as they could have
Folding stock and pistol grip on shotguns in CA is fine. Alot of them are sold that way to begin with.
I'll buy your AR receivers when Cali screws you guys!
I'll take a couple for $60 shipped.
That's what I used to have on my scattergun.
we have been over this road before, and there is no way for them to legally screw us over, so
thats why I have 2 sitting in my safe right now
they will find a way. they seem to not care about the constitution anyways, why would this be any different? It will be interesting to see what happens though.
wrong, the LEGISLATURE doesnt give a rats ass about the constitution. But we are not dealing with them, we are dealing with the DOJ. However much some people inside the DOJ want to screw us over, they are still constrained in what they can do.
the thing is that they cannot take away anything or charge you with something that was legal before the law was changed. If that happened, when they changed the drinking age to 21 a lot of people would be in trouble.
I know, I just like giving the CA people shit cause their state sucks so much ass
lol, they don't take kindly to that. It hurts their superiority complex.
Im not all up on the CA stuff, but I see no reason why CA must allow people to build these into assault weapons. The period to register assault weapons is over.
I'm not sure if it's even constitutional for them to do so. Ammendment 14 says that the state cannot take away any right granted to it's citizens by the US gov't. If the US gov't allows assault weapons, I don't see how it is consitutional for them to not allow them. That's sorta reaching but by the wording of it the laws banning these weapons and .50s doesn't seem constitutional. I don't think anybody has tried to fight it though; or everybody has given up hope for the commie bastards in Kali.