Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by IcyHot4Life, Jul 11, 2004.
since it requires dual DVI links to drive it... anyone get their hands on this display yet?
meh.. the display Plus the video card it requires is something like 4grand total...
its cool and all.. but damnnnnnnnnnn
Boo!!! Not that I would hook a screen that big up to my laptop.
uhh...steve jobs begs to differ.
watch the keynote again.
while you can run it at lower resolutions without it, you do have to have the bad boy card to run it at the maximum resolution.
i want to rub my pen0s all over that screen.
[font=Helvetica,Geneva,Arial]NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL[/font]
[font=helvetica, geneva, arial] The groundbreaking new NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra delivers the industry's first 16-pipe superscalar architecture and support for the world's fastest DDR3 memory to raise the bar for 3D graphics performance. The specifications of the GeForce 6800 Ultra GPU, are stunning: Using over 220 million transistors it supports a 256-bit interface for an effective memory bandwidth of 35.2 GB per second which delivers 600 million vertices, 6.4 billion textured pixels per second. The GPU is built on an AGP 8X board and includes 256MB of DDR3 memory for use in the most demanding graphics applications. It is the first card available to support the DVI standard dual link digital signal specification from the two DVI ports it features. This capability is required to drive the new 30-inch LCD, high resolution Apple Cinema HD display. The combination of a GeForce 6800 Ultra with a dual processor Power Mac G5 driving two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays is the definitive tool for the creative professional. [/font]
thanks for the info, not that I'll be doing this anytime soon... I thought that's what I heard in the keynote outline, though. One sticking point; does it require just the card capable of dual link, or two physical DVI connections as well?
It's my understanding that it requires just that card. The card has two dual-link DVI connections on it, allowing you to run two 30" cinema displays from the one card.
From the way Steve explained it, the connections on the new card basically push the bandwidth of two standard DVI connections through one dual link DVI connection. I am assuming, but not certain, that it's backwards compatible so you could still run smaller monitors that only require standard DVI connections.
Sorry, but I believe it is you who are not understanding.
You DO need that card to run a 30" cinema display at max resolution.
The card has TWO dual link DVI connections, each capable of running a single 30" cinema display. you don't use both dual link DVI connections for only one monitor, that would be quadruple the bandwidth of a normal DVI connection.
It's not just a dual standard DVI out card, it's a dual "Dual-Link DVI" card...
[font=helvetica, geneva, arial]It is the first card available to support the DVI standard dual link digital signal specification from the two DVI ports it features. This capability is required to drive the new 30-inch LCD, high resolution Apple Cinema HD display.
You said: But you DON'T need dual DVI to run one display. It has dual DVI to hook up TWO DISPLAYS.
which is still kinda wrong. each of the two connections on the new card supports the new "[font=helvetica, geneva, arial]DVI standard dual link digital signal specification".
[/font]Ignore the fact that the card has two outputs on it, a single 30" cinema display...
...DOES NOT require (or even work with) two standard DVI connections (which is what most of the world calls "dual DVI", the terminology you're incorrectly using instead of "Dual-Link DVI" - I'm taking the liberty of adding a hyphen to make the difference more clear) .
...DOES require one "Dual-Link DVI" connection.
The NVidia card has Dual Dual-Link DVI Connections, allowing the use of two 30" Cinema Displays.
Dual DVI = dual standard DVI output
Dual Dual-Link DVI = dual dual-link DVI output
your spot on maczter
Finally...someone who understands me.
I love the firewire hub on the new displays, I have been waiting for that
yes, exactly. I agree, you're right on.
So, by your reasoning, it wouldn't matter if I went down to CompUSA and asked for a Dual DVI card or a Dual Dual-Link DVI card since it's just terminology.
...even though a Dual DVI Card and a Dual Dual-Link DVI Card are two very different animals and the Dual DVI Card would be useless for running a 30" Cinema Display at the resolution it was designed to run at.
Here's your original post...
Sounds to me like I could just go buy any ol' DVI video card and be good to go, when, in fact, that is wrong because the 30" Cinema Display requires a video card with one or more Dual-Link DVI ports on it.
What's wrong? You can dish it out, but you can't take it?
Just admit that you didn't realize at first that there was a difference between Daul-Link DVI and Dual DVI.
Wow. I had no clue.
Ironically enough, I'm picking my car up on Thursday from having a bigger intercooler installed.
Do you know what the phrase "You can dish it out, but you can't take it?" means?
I'm not entirely unconvinced that Formz is a 15-year-old kid whose dad works at Apple.
His posts in other forums have been childish and tactless as well... I wasn't gonna say anything because he seemed to be worthwhile in this particular forum but I guess that's out the window now, too
March 22, 1983
Doesn't it suck to know that I have a morning commute of 20 steps (unless I decide to work in the living room) and you don't?
I had my first job when you were 6.
I've been using Macs since you were 8.
I was sitting in System 7 class when you turned 9.
Congrats on working at Apple, but it doesn't automatically make you all knowing. You didn't initially grasp that there was a difference between Dual DVI cards and Dual-Link DVI cards, and that would have been fine if you would have just been a man and admitted you goofed instead of trying to make it look like I was somehow an idiot for pointing it out.
Have you even watched the WWDC Keynote yet? ( http://stream.apple.akadns.net/ )
I hope you aren't in a customer service position.
There's nothing that nobody else couldn't have turned up in a matter of seconds by simply clicking on your user name, looking at your birthday to make sure I wasn't talking to a 15 year-old as others suggested, then scanning through your posts to see if you were always such a punk, which is exactly what I did.
I guess you've spent as much time reading the rules as you have spent watching the WWDC Keynote?
Please state the rule violated...
...and Dual-Link DVI is still not the same as Dual DVI, regardless of where you work or what your father does.