Discussion in 'On Topic' started by thegooch, Sep 29, 2008.
Good as in what?
Good enough to be bolted to a concrete floor in a garage and not have to worry about it/the guns getting stolen
No one. Not for that kind of safety.
You can get something decent enough to keep the average person from simply walking off with the stuff, but if someone wants into a $300 safe, its not to hard to get into it.
I have a Stack On from Dicks Sporting goods that was in that range, but I have no illusions of how good it is. It looks impressive and for me in an apartment, it will keep the average person from walking off (I couldnt go anything more due to weight since I'm on the third floor), but it wouldnt keep someone from prying in with some good tools.
If you want that kind of protection, figure on a $1500 safe or more. If you want someone from just walking off with them, but certainly not good enough to "not worry about them," go for a $300 safe.
300 dollars will not buy you anything that will protect your guns very much. I will protect against children and nosy people, it will even protect against a smash and dash burglar (who doesn't want to wast the time), but anyone with a pry bar will take only a few moments to get it open.
I think Walmart is selling a sentry 14 gun digital combo gun safe for $379 or so
I have a question. What do you do if the fucker runs out of batteries? You have to get it cut open?
Fucking only one my walmart sells now. How the fuck can they just finish building an even bigger walmart yet they have less shit? They got rid of guns, all but one of the gun cabinets, ammunition, gun cases, all sorts of other shit
On black friday lowe's usually has a 14 gun sentry for like $300-350. Your price range is just getting a safe styled contraption but won't buy you anything that is really "safe"
i doubt either of these are going to get pried open
buy used if you have to. That's what I did. Mines not top of the line, but I feel it's adequate for my needs right now.
so, you want to put it in your GARAGE and you only want to spend $400
at the least if you are going to skimp out, put it in your basement where it can't just be hauled out the garage
I'd talk to someone who sells safes before deciding that.
Check out this liberty safe that someone made a side door in with a hammer. It looks beefy but most of us probably have the tools needed to open the safe laying around the house.
I'm looking at something like this:
A $400 safe in the garage only conveniences the theif, he just has to pick up the safe and throw it in his truck that's conveniently backed into the garage.
I have one of those cheap $400 Sentry safes, but it is not in a "conventional location", and is strictly a second safe mostly for records and a few longarms. The strength of it's effectiveness is that it is not in an easy to get to location, and is anchored to concrete.
My primary safe is in a more obvious spot, but also anchored down to concrete. My brother in law is a contractor and did the work for me.
About 11 years ago, I owned one of those cheap $300 stack on safes you get from Walmart. It was broken into by hand tools I had laying around and my guns were stolen in a window of maybe an hour and a half. I wish I had taken pictures of the safe, but it was literally pryed open like a sardine can. That is why I don't take pictures of, nor talk very much about my gun safes.
A $400 safe anchored to the concrete would be a pretty difficult thing to move I would think.
I'd venture to guess you could tilt that safe, wobble it, and the steal around the bolts woulD give way long before the bolts Move
Difficult to move, but not difficult to pry open. My old safe was in a linen closet at my old apartment so I wasn't able to anchor it to a wall. It looks like they tried to walk off with it as it was on it's back in my hallway. But they found some of my tools and pryed it open and just took my stuff.
I have had my safe for a little over 2 years. i replaced the battery a few months ago. Probably gonna just replace it once a year to be safe. Maybe do it on xmas or my birthday, etc. I would hate to have the battery die and all my stuff trapped inside.
honestly if I would have had a choice I would have rather got a regular dial type safe but the electronic one was a very good price.
Guess again. Here is how easy it is to get into a $1000 safe.
If someone really wants to, they will get in.
wow, now that I look back, that is how I discovered my safe, on it's back in the middle of the hall, and that's exactly how it looks like it was done.
because every house has a basement, amirite?
Don't have a basement, nor do I have room for it in my house where the fuck else should I put it?
Keep in mind AB's posts as I think he covers pretty much all the basics. The door on your cheap security container is going to probably be the strongest part, the rest will probably be thinner metal. Put it in a closet or something to not only hide the safe entirely but make it harder to get to the sides. As an alternative consider a corner with the hinges facing the room so that its harder to get a pry bar in the unhinged side (although I doubt it matters much). Be sure its bolted down well. Keep your tools locked up and put away from it because they'll probably open it with whatever you have laying around.
You get what you pay for.