just curious. i was at the galley and something came on CNN about them. i found myself chuckling a little, probably because my take is this: If you can show your face on tv, you're not SF. of course then i realized there's been a shitload of documentaries on buds and hellweek. so maybe it's only operators in country that avoid being seen. i think these guys (the pj's) were. then again, i've been called idiot before.