Petter Solberg has WAY too much info in his pace notes! After watching 4 1/2 hours of the WRC on Speedvision (of which I taped all 4 1/2 hours) I have a new found appreciation for Phil Mills, his co-driver. They seem to have every thing possible in the pace notes about the turns. Riding along in the car, it got hard to keep up with what the turn was going to be while Phil was filling in every detail of the turn. Sometimes it seemed a simple '4 right' or '2 left' would suffice. But NO, they had to use 'oblong' and other geometrical discriptions. He and Colin McRae use the same pace note system, which describes the turn in what gear you can take them in. As in a '6 right' is a right turn that can be taken flat out in 6th gear and a '1 left' is a sharp left turn that has to be taken in 1st gear. But if you listen to Nicky Grist, Colin's co-driver, their pacenote system is much more simpler. Its usually not much more than a simple '6 left opens, 4 right minus' Oh, and did anyone else watch all of the coverage on Speedvision? And they're gonna do that for every rally I love Speedvision/Speed Channel.