ART Sony NEX-5n.......what do you guys think?

Bavarian3

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Aug 27, 2003
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Whats everyones opinion on this type of camera, and the new 5n?

What really attracts me is its size, I cant stand the bulk of full size SLR's and was thinkin this could be a good subsitute.

For me its between this or just a t2i....or open to nikon of similar price. All Sony hate aside what do you guys think about these?

What am I really missing out on vs an SLR like a t2i? Im not taking any crazy fast moving pics just want some high quality still pics of things like cars, bikes, scenery etc.

some reviews and videos and shit..

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1108/11082417sonynex5npreview.asp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHmtgjo4_c
 

jared_IRL

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Feb 12, 2006
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reviews seem pretty fucking badass.

It's small enough that i'm considering that and the 16mm pancake as my p&s...

just waiting on some real life user reviews...
 

tetsuo

And shepherds we shall be...
May 6, 2004
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i tried dumping all my canon gear to pick up a oly ep1. i wasn't that impressed with the focus speed or the picture quality, but the sony's really seem to have improved both of those. i also found that i didn't like the idea of shooting without a viewfinder, it felt awkward to me. :dunno: i would definitely recommend trying one before buying one
 

Marix

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May 23, 2006
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Well, for a start the image quality destroys an entry level SLR. It's around a d7000 sort of level.. especially in low light performance. EosHD even reckon it beats a 5d mk2 at high ISO

The main downsizes are the comparitive lack of lenses. The kit is ok, the 16 2.8 is ok. The 50 1.8 looks good, and the 24 1.8 Zeiss will be incredible. You can also mount a HUGE range of other lenses using cheap adapters.

You might also want to consider the addon viewfinder. Imo, the main downside of that sort of canera is the lack of viewfinder. Back LCD screens are often hard to see in bright light which makes framing pics harder. Plus personally I prefer holding the camera to the eye, rather than holding it infront to use a screen.

The other downside is ergonomics. With the bulk of a dslr, you get lots of buttons and dials to change settings quickly. With a compact body, you rely more on menus and simple controls.

You make some compromises for sure, but the main advantage is the image and video quality in a small package.
 

FryingPan

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The other downside is ergonomics. With the bulk of a dslr, you get lots of buttons and dials to change settings quickly. With a compact body, you rely more on menus and simple controls.

This in fact is the #1 reason why I never bought a NEX camera when I was looking for a compact. Too many menus, not enough buttons.

And for the average consumer, that's fine, but for experienced shooters and pros, well. . . :hsd:
 
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Bavarian3

Bavarian3

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Well, for a start the image quality destroys an entry level SLR. It's around a d7000 sort of level.. especially in low light performance. EosHD even reckon it beats a 5d mk2 at high ISO

The main downsizes are the comparitive lack of lenses. The kit is ok, the 16 2.8 is ok. The 50 1.8 looks good, and the 24 1.8 Zeiss will be incredible. You can also mount a HUGE range of other lenses using cheap adapters.

You might also want to consider the addon viewfinder. Imo, the main downside of that sort of canera is the lack of viewfinder. Back LCD screens are often hard to see in bright light which makes framing pics harder. Plus personally I prefer holding the camera to the eye, rather than holding it infront to use a screen.

The other downside is ergonomics. With the bulk of a dslr, you get lots of buttons and dials to change settings quickly. With a compact body, you rely more on menus and simple controls.

You make some compromises for sure, but the main advantage is the image and video quality in a small package.


yeahh this is pretty convincing.....

so what im understanding is its just not going to be as good of a manual camera to be adjusting settings on the fly....but spot on for people who arent trying to get super into photography and just want high quality pictures.

one disadvantage I read about is the auto focus, seems to not work quite as well as SLR's.....just what ive read though.....
 

MSIGuy

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May 30, 2005
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Well, for a start the image quality destroys an entry level SLR. It's around a d7000 sort of level.. especially in low light performance. EosHD even reckon it beats a 5d mk2 at high ISO
Holy shit, will you stop posting this like it's some sort of breakthrough? OMG, new camera sensor is better than sensor that's 2.5 years old! :noes:
 

Marix

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May 23, 2006
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Holy shit, will you stop posting this like it's some sort of breakthrough? OMG, new camera sensor is better than sensor that's 2.5 years old! :noes:

Better than a £2000 FULL FRAME camera ;)

From a body which fits in the pocket :dunno:

The point is that the image quality is amazing, especially in such a small package, and thr OP shouldn't be comparing to a t2i
 

Marix

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May 23, 2006
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This in fact is the #1 reason why I never bought a NEX camera when I was looking for a compact. Too many menus, not enough buttons.

And for the average consumer, that's fine, but for experienced shooters and pros, well. . . :hsd:

Yeah me too. Gotta spend a lot more for the Fuji x100, or the upcoming NEX-7 if you want lots of control wheels etc. Plus the EVF which is a huge benefit, as I'm sire you'll agree with your x100. Framing everything om the back of the screen would irritate me.
 

Marix

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yeahh this is pretty convincing.....

so what im understanding is its just not going to be as good of a manual camera to be adjusting settings on the fly....but spot on for people who arent trying to get super into photography and just want high quality pictures.

one disadvantage I read about is the auto focus, seems to not work quite as well as SLR's.....just what ive read though.....

Basically, yeah. Though if youre comparing to entry level dslrs, they aren't usually awash with custom buttons either.

Autofocus works ok, but it cant keep up with the fancy things that good dslrs can do. Things like tracking subjects across the frame, or continuous focus of something going towards or away. But again, entry level dslrs don't excel at that stuff either.. that's why there are action oriented cameras like the 7d or sony a77 etc with lots of autofocus options to specialised in that sort of thing.

If youre talking portraits, landscapes, objects.. you will have no problem and probably not even notice a difference. If you want to track birds, drifting cars or bikes or somethjng, you'll be betyer with a dslr

(Sorry for typos.. im on my phone!)
 
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Bavarian3

Bavarian3

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Basically, yeah. Though if youre comparing to entry level dslrs, they aren't usually awash with custom buttons either.

Autofocus works ok, but it cant keep up with the fancy things that good dslrs can do. Things like tracking subjects across the frame, or continuous focus of something going towards or away. But again, entry level dslrs don't excel at that stuff either.. that's why there are action oriented cameras like the 7d or sony a77 etc with lots of autofocus options to specialised in that sort of thing.

If youre talking portraits, landscapes, objects.. you will have no problem and probably not even notice a difference. If you want to track birds, drifting cars or bikes or somethjng, you'll be betyer with a dslr

(Sorry for typos.. im on my phone!)

thanks alot for all the info. definitely makes it a no brainer for me.

doesnt seem to be much argument in all the research ive found.....dont see any reason to go any other route for my uses.

found some on ebay with kit lense for just over 600....u guys think i should stay away from ebay for warranties?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Alpha-...l_Cameras&hash=item2eb7e3b7a8#ht_11403wt_1337
 

MSIGuy

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May 30, 2005
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Better than a £2000 FULL FRAME camera ;)

From a body which fits in the pocket :dunno:

The point is that the image quality is amazing, especially in such a small package, and thr OP shouldn't be comparing to a t2i
:rolleyes: Dude, we get it, you like Sony, but not everything they make is gold. No shit a new body is going to have better performance. I'm not saying it's a crap camera, I really kind of like it, but your blind Sony fanboyism is getting annoying.

Also, WTF kind of Jnco jeans are you wearing where this:

sony-NEX5.jpg


will fit in your pocket? Yeah, it's a smaller camera, but that doesn't exactly fit in the average pocket...
 

Cesium

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They need more small lenses for the NEX system. Even if they have to be slower, like f/2.8... let's see more pancake primes!

The bodies are nice. The sensors are nice. The lens selection? ha!
 
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Bavarian3

Bavarian3

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Aug 27, 2003
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They need more small lenses for the NEX system. Even if they have to be slower, like f/2.8... let's see more pancake primes!

The bodies are nice. The sensors are nice. The lens selection? ha!

or just get adapter n use whatever??
 

MSIGuy

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May 30, 2005
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or just get adapter n use whatever??
Why buy a small camera and put a huge lens on it. That's my biggest problem with these types of cameras, yeah, the body can fit in your pocket, but the lens the size of a can of pop can't...
 
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Bavarian3

Bavarian3

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Aug 27, 2003
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Why buy a small camera and put a huge lens on it. That's my biggest problem with these types of cameras, yeah, the body can fit in your pocket, but the lens the size of a can of pop can't...

i doubt someone doing serious photography is gonna use this camera and put some 'huge' lense on it. doesnt seem to be intended for that market.

either way kit lens to kit lens this outfit is way more compact than an slr....and much lighter id imagine too. much easier convince ur gf to carry it around in her purse or something....also just carrying it around and taking pics i imagine would be more comortable

no cameras fitting in these hipster jeans any which way u look at it :mamoru:
 

Cesium

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Nov 25, 2004
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or just get adapter n use whatever??

Yea sure you can use whatever. With manual focus and manual aperture control. And the adapters are usually pretty big themselves as well as the lenses you'd use would likely be DSLR sized. Awesome!
 

michael

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Dec 21, 2001
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Why buy a small camera and put a huge lens on it. That's my biggest problem with these types of cameras, yeah, the body can fit in your pocket, but the lens the size of a can of pop can't...
Agreed. "awesome I can carry around a camera that takes pictures almost as well as my full sized camera, and it's..well...practically the same size..so I'm really just giving up functionality and image quality for size..except without the size benefit..so..yeah"
 

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