Currently doing the Bill Starr 5x5. Making good gains so far. Log: http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=3455319 I'm working towards the goals in post 1, and would like to work for strength gains and to pass the physical test. I'm proposing stacking http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/brent2.htm on top of the 5x5. Assuming I'm eating enough, and sleeping enough, does this count as overtraining? I hope not.