Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by Mejnoon, Apr 19, 2010.
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Loyalty is not turning your friends victory into a fucking circus.
Shields started the shoving
Get stoned, banned from even being ringside
Jump someone in the cage, have CEO of the org blame the victim
Stop with that shit already.
Lets not forget that Dana White thrust this sport in to the mainstream on the backs of a bunch of impulsive young athletes that he stuck in to a house packed full of booze and encouraged to wile out...or that the biggest clothing line in mma has the tag line "american, arrogant, and in ya face"...or that this type of shit has happened in boxing for generations and has never "embarrassed" or threatened the legitimacy of the sport.
Strikeforce/Coker can posture all they want...they loved it. CBS loved it. And all of you self righteous bastards loved it too, you just won't admit it.
This is a professional sport. A controversial one at that --- WWE type antics aren't going to help win over the critics or help in making the case that this is in fact a legitimate sport.
At the root of MMA, no matter what your field of expertise is, is discipline. Something the Diaz brothers apparently don't have.
Jeeeeesus christ. The entire Strikeforce organization is built around the cesar gracie camp. They will do everything in their power to keep every one of them as safe as they can.
P.S. The Diaz brothers are thugs and big fucking faggots.
Quote that Quote to all corners of the internets.
basically, i mean 3 of their current champions are from that camp
its almost cute how hard the diaz brothers try to be thugs, but theyre so fucking ugly and mentally retarded it just makes me want to puke
and gilberts just mad because no one is ever going to consider him relevant
I really wish this was 2005 and Mayhem was a member of Chute Boxe
How many bench clearing brawls have we seen in baseball or hockey? How many press conference or post fight brawls have we seen in boxing?
It happens, get over it. Mayhem knew exactly what he was doing going in there...he wanted some CBS face time and he was willing to take a team Cesar Gracie beatdown to get it...you're fucking retarded if you think he didn't know he was going to incite a brawl.
Go watch tennis.
yeah.... ...people get fined and suspended for starting brawls in baseball.
also there are no innocent bystanders to get injured or harmed when brawls break out in hockey or baseball. and press junket fights in boxing are not at a sanctioned event, hard to see it as being any different than getting in a skirmish at a bar.
your examples are pretty shitty
MMA is here to stay and is sanctioned in all but a handful of locales in the US and Canada...stop trying to act like every little dust up is going to have an effect on the sport as a whole.
As to your second point, your logic is specious. Nick and Nate acted entirely in character...how were they being undisciplined? They both exhibit an extremely high level of discipline in their training and fighting.
Actually they were built around AKA...the Cesar Gracie guys just took all the belts.
That "play by play" is wrong on several points, most notably who shoved Miller first...the video clearly shows it was Shields, followed by Melendez.
MMA is a legitimate sport because there is money to be made via gambling, sponsoring, promoting, and most importantly, covering it in the press. That is what makes it a legitimate sport, and as long as its profitable to cover it and promote it, it will be a legitimate sport.
They've all accomplished more than you ever will
And the Diaz brothers put themselves at risk of being fined or suspended...I doubt they will, but they knew they were taking that chance.
My examples were spot-on...its exactly the same type of thing in the same context. But way to make an irrelevant point about a press conference not being a fight while ignoring the fact that there have also been plenty of in-ring post fight brawls in boxing
Exactly...and guess what? People love watching brawls like that, whether they wanna admit it or not...including every fucking person in this thread. You all loved it and you know it, you just won't admit it because you're bitches.
This was FANTASTIC for mma. Without this brawl, who outside of the established fan base and people who happened to stumble across it would even know there was an mma event on CBS last night? That brawl made it a headline, and the sport will benefit.
Nick Diaz...the Tony Montana of mma