The OFFICIAL Star Trek: Picard thread (The Final Season coming February 16, 2023).

[legal eagle]

I really enjoyed the first episode.

 

[legal eagle]

Things on my mind:
1) the flute and, when he held it, the melody played in the background. I need to watch that TNG episode again - it was definitely in the top 5 TNG episodes
2) Rafi's storyline - is that happening in some alternate timeline? It's not related to any of the other story lines. Also, she's searching for the 'red lady' who will ruin everything... and here she is, completely dressed in red, acting insanely crazy. Isn't it obvious that she is the red lady? And why is she so bipolar?
3) I totally want the Lower Decks characters to walk by in the background. Maybe have Jack Quaid run by (with purple hair) in the background holding some sort of green bubbly liquid.

"The Inner Light" is the greatest episode of Star Trek across any series IMO

 

[Twinsen]

I mean on the one hand you have to let some of that shit go when you watch a movie, it's about a cinematic experience. I understand why writers think pump action type guns are more action-y, because they watched T2 and they think shotguns are more "in your face" type of thing. Whatever. But on the other hand, it seems kind of weird to have technology go backwards.

Maybe if it was very powerful? Like if it was like a bazooka or something. Or perhaps if it was a smart gun and homed in on targets. But as it is? Obvious situation of choosing cool factor > logic.

And then the communicator thing...I understand from the storytelling perspective why they wanted her message to go to his communicator. But even in real life this doesn't make any sense. All our shit in real life is connected. We'd get a notification on our phone, on our watch, on our pc, in real life anywhere we go when we got a message. We don't need to dig up our old LG Chocolate to get DMs from our defunct MySpace accounts. That part was dumb as shit and bothered me so much. And the exposition of him talking to the computer to explain even what the fuck it was....my god.

I just have to remind myself it's being written for literally the dumbest person that ever watched TV and it is bearable.

Also a part of my nitpicks. And a very simple question propsed by Angry Joe.

"Do you remember your Myspace password?" NO.

How the fuck did Picard remember a password from 20 years ago.

 

[Twinsen]

okay, so now to the things I liked:


1. Picard/Riker chemistry is still there, and it was good to see. I am a little concerned about the manufactured drama between Riker and his family, but from what I read it doesn't last and things are cheeky. I hope they're right. But the TNG family aspect has always been really strong and I like that they are sticking with it. Especially with them risking it all for Beverly even though she seemingly snuffed them all for 20 years.

2. I liked the music. Mostly this is because it is just recycled music from past entries, but it is utilized very well. The shuttle-Titan music, mixing in the main theme, even First Contact music at the end.

3. Despite it being cringey as all out, I did like seeing Geordi's daughter. She seemed positive, happy, and was a stark contrast (so far) to the likes of some of the other more Grimdark aspects of the series. The fact is is his real life daughter is also really cute. Like super cute. And she's cute I hope nothing but good things happen for her character.

4. Pacing seems to be a million times better than what I saw of S1 and what I've read of S2.

Agreed on all notes, just that to Point 1, I hope they chill with the "I'm too old for this shit" moments, like they did it one too many times.

To point 3. Yeah this was nice, but then they continued to rag on her for how she got her nickname. They (the Director/Writer) could have at least let her retort with an simple comment like, "Okay yeah, that happened, but I ended graduating the top of my class after those mistakes and I am fit to be the Navigator of these fine vessell." But nah, they just kinda left it open to the rest of the crew to be like, ah shit we got a shitty Navigator.

 

[Twinsen]

Things on my mind:
1) the flute and, when he held it, the melody played in the background. I need to watch that TNG episode again - it was definitely in the top 5 TNG episodes
2) Rafi's storyline - is that happening in some alternate timeline? It's not related to any of the other story lines. Also, she's searching for the 'red lady' who will ruin everything... and here she is, completely dressed in red, acting insanely crazy. Isn't it obvious that she is the red lady? And why is she so bipolar?
3) I totally want the Lower Decks characters to walk by in the background. Maybe have Jack Quaid run by (with purple hair) in the background holding some sort of green bubbly liquid.

2) It's currently completely unrelated but we all know they'll cross paths eventually.
3) Lower Decks will have a live-action cross-over in Season 2 of SNW.

 

[bender]

I like the first episode. I think this season will be better than season 2

 

[the_antsy_honda]

Agreed on all notes, just that to Point 1, I hope they chill with the "I'm too old for this shit" moments, like they did it one too many times.

To point 3. Yeah this was nice, but then they continued to rag on her for how she got her nickname. They (the Director/Writer) could have at least let her retort with an simple comment like, "Okay yeah, that happened, but I ended graduating the top of my class after those mistakes and I am fit to be the Navigator of these fine vessell." But nah, they just kinda left it open to the rest of the crew to be like, ah shit we got a shitty Navigator.

They will circle back around to it later with her coming to save them in a shuttle and pulling off some daredevil stunt to expand on that more. Watch.

 

[Twinsen]

For Rafi, from what I understand the writers room just didn't know what to do with her. I guess because of drastic writing direction shifts every season, a lot of the actors maybe contractually or for whatever reasons they kept, and others they totally got rid of. Other videos touched on it. Basically they rewrote new characters for several actors, and in the case of Rafi, who was a more well written and liked character, they kept her as is...but didn't know what to do with her. So she has a B-side story that seems like it will hook up again with the main plot at some point. Pretty clumsy IMO, her entire contribution to this episode was googling Red Lady

My take on the whole scene that Angry Joe suggested...

Spoiler

That whole scene could have been just Worf himself (or any of the TNG cast really) but like you said, the actress more than likely was contractually obligated to return so they just stuffed her in this scene. She's still just off-putting from the rest of the show. And the Handler is obviously you, Worf, you Warrior, you.

 

[the_antsy_honda]

My take on the whole scene that Angry Joe suggested...

Spoiler

That whole scene could have been just Worf himself (or any of the TNG cast really) but like you said, the actress more than likely was contractually obligated to return so they just stuffed her in this scene. She's still just off-putting from the rest of the show. And the Handler is obviously you, Worf, you Warrior, you.

You know, that never occurred to me. But it makes sense.

 

[the_antsy_honda]

I think the embarrassing kid story from old Uncle Will was more the angle they were going, like baby pictures. I didn't really take it like she was deficient.

 

[stevezissou]

 

[the_antsy_honda]

yeah idk what he was saying because that video format is unwatchable

 

[the_antsy_honda]

26 positives, 2 negatives.

The two criticisms were:


1. Laris is going bye bye
2. When you zoom in on Crusher's record in the shuttle is shows 2 injuries, which seems silly.


Real objective, or bullshit shills?

 

[Twinsen]

26 positives, 2 negatives.

The two criticisms were:


1. Laris is going bye bye
2. When you zoom in on Crusher's record in the shuttle is shows 2 injuries, which seems silly.


Real objective, or bullshit shills?



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One of my small time YouTubers just posted his thoughts, will be listening on the way home shortly.

 

[baboymo]

Knew Mike couldn’t resist.

 

[Twinsen]

 

[Twinsen]

Knew Mike couldn’t resist.

DELETE THIS POST!

 

[stevezissou]

Knew Mike couldn’t resist.

DELETE THIS POST!

Damn you guys this was up for 1 minute and you beat me to posting it!!

 

[Twinsen]

Damn you guys this was up for 1 minute and you beat me to posting it!!

At least I got the first comment on it.

 

[yonson]

I just found out if you quite a "spoiler" tagged quote it unspoilers it.

If the antsy one is talking about the current season, I'm going to bow out of the thread for a while, because this time I am waiting until they are all released so I can binge them...

 

[the_antsy_honda]

I just found out if you quite a "spoiler" tagged quote it unspoilers it.

If the antsy one is talking about the current season, I'm going to bow out of the thread for a while, because this time I am waiting until they are all released so I can binge them...

Sorry man. I will use the hidden block thing next time.

 

[yonson]

Sorry man. I will use the hidden block thing next time.

No worries, I got to the next page and saw tons of stuff about the episode, so I'm just going to not come into this thread for a while

 

[baboymo]

DELETE THIS POST!

Second place again eh?

 

[stevezissou]

 

[hypntyz]

Finally got time to watch, so I came back to this thread for others' thoughts. After reading 2-3 pages straight of the angry honda's literal meltdown, I can say that was almost as entertaining as the episode lol