I mean I get the in universe explanation but it still seems weak and illogical. To me it would be like having a car whose engine runs off gas but whose radio/infotainment runs off diesel. IF for some reason you find yourself out of gas to run the engine and move the car you can still play the radio? Okay cool but why not just make both systems compatible so you can cross connect them or use fuel from one to run the other in a pinch, that way if you run out of gas you can siphon some more gas from the auxiliary tank and fire the engine up and get yourself to safety, which is better than listening to the radio while you wait for a towtruck.
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I mean I get the in universe explanation but it still seems weak and illogical. To me it would be like having a car whose engine runs off gas but whose radio/infotainment runs off diesel. IF for some reason you find yourself out of gas to run the engine and move the car you can still play the radio? Okay cool but why not just make both systems compatible so you can cross connect them or use fuel from one to run the other in a pinch, that way if you run out of gas you can siphon some more gas from the auxiliary tank and fire the engine up and get yourself to safety, which is better than listening to the radio while you wait for a towtruck.
More people should be concerned about once lift support is lost, you only have "minutes to live". They don't know how big these fucking ships are apparently.
Could have been easy to throw a line in there saying that they're leaking atmosphere across multiple decks due to considerable hull damage. But nope.
Also, is the Enterprise-E the only ship that had ram scoops? Why did they have to "grease monkey" this to work? 
Okay, I guess its my turn to be @the_antsy_honda after this episode.
Okay, I guess its my turn to be @the_antsy_honda after this episode.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
Think they used to just call them bussard collectors but it's just technobabble anyway, they always did that in the old show and most of the time it was just plot dictatedAlso, is the Enterprise-E the only ship that had ram scoops? Why did they have to "grease monkey" this to work?
Okay, I guess its my turn to be @the_antsy_honda after this episode.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
Publius
Professor of Triggerednometry
it seems like this is different from the bussard collectors/ram scoops--a different part of the nacelle opened and it sounds like according to this technobabble to they were channeling energy directly to the systems vs the bussard collectors would collect the interstellar medium and convert it to energy internally.Also, is the Enterprise-E the only ship that had ram scoops? Why did they have to "grease monkey" this to work?
Okay, I guess its my turn to be @the_antsy_honda after this episode.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
Remember that time riker had to carry around Data's head and used his body to short circuit that thingyit seems like this is different from the bussard collectors/ram scoops--a different part of the nacelle opened and it sounds like according to this technobabble to they were channeling energy directly to the systems vs the bussard collectors would collect the interstellar medium and convert it to energy internally.
Not related just saying they always come up with some shit to explain away some plot point. I don't mind too much.
Three biggest issue is the transportsers... They are too powerful to not be the answer to almost every problem the crews encounter, but because of that they're bad for storytelling most of the time.
So many scenarios where, "why don't they just beam it out?" Especially when they've done stuff like that before.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
Also watching through Disco S3....with dilithium being so rare and space travel so limited, I cannot believe that admiral would just let those people take the discovery on missions. If I were the one in charge, I'd have taken discovery and put it in the deepest hole possible with all the scientists available to duplicate that spore drive tech. Keep Stamets and Killy to work with the science crews, and then kick everyone else off the ship (hell give them a conventional ship to go on missions together if that's what it took) but I would under NO CIRCUMSTANCES allow the discovery to be risked in any way
probably the biggest issue I'm taking with the show. They needed a better explanation on why Starfleet 32nd century is okay with risking this game changer.
probably the biggest issue I'm taking with the show. They needed a better explanation on why Starfleet 32nd century is okay with risking this game changer.
Publius
Professor of Triggerednometry
yeah, even a submarine can survive a few hours with no active life support systems iirc--in reality a ship that volume probably has at least a few days of air before carbon dioxide build-up becomes an issue in most spaces.More people should be concerned about once lift support is lost, you only have "minutes to live". They don't know how big these fucking ships are apparently.
Could have been easy to throw a line in there saying that they're leaking atmosphere across multiple decks due to considerable hull damage. But nope.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
I think air is just one component of life support. It's something like -200f in space, so there's that as well. Then radiation that one presumes more than deck plating is needed to protect you from.More people should be concerned about once lift support is lost, you only have "minutes to live". They don't know how big these fucking ships are apparently.
Could have been easy to throw a line in there saying that they're leaking atmosphere across multiple decks due to considerable hull damage. But nope.
So when I see, "life support is off line" I'm thinking your ass gonna freeze to death of the heater goes out long before you suffocate "
Publius
Professor of Triggerednometry
Valid points, forgot about Enviornmental Controls within Life Support. But still, that's a pretty shitty system that battery stores wouldn't at least give a few hours rather than minutes.
We saw that in TNGS01 where the portal planet seized the ship and they were freezing to death. And again in ENT where the 2 guys are stuck in a shuttlecraft in the middle of nowhere and heat is the first thing they lose.
Which doesnt make sense from what I know of our current experience in space, because I am pretty sure they say that heat buildup inside of satellites etc is more of a problem than freezing.
Publius
Professor of Triggerednometry
That’s with systems operating though iirc, Apollo 13 they got really cold.
OTOH there was that one ep of TNG where the ship was breaking down and they were trying to get to a certain place to unload parasites that were eating the ship, they were losing life support and we saw everyone pass out after being super sweaty and wiping their heads.That’s with systems operating though iirc, Apollo 13 they got really cold.
the_antsy_honda
This is the story of a little ship...
alright finished up s3 of disco...
s4 starts off.....like a JJ movie?
s4 starts off.....like a JJ movie?
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baboymo
Have you been circumcised?
I was half expecting Picard to take the helm like in Booby Trap.
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baboymo
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cyclaptor
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Your mental toughness astounds me good sir.
He's a stronger man than I am, that's for damn sure.
The best thing to come out of DSC was the intro score IMO.