Ya, so I took sometime off from OT. Got my shit together, so far it is working out well for me. Started at a 4 year school, so many hot girls. The problem is either I am trying to hard or I am not being outgoing enough. Well I took a step towards being more outgoing; however it ended in flames, hence the nick name of Maverick. I feel like this is a motorcycle crash analysis thread, I know what went wrong, identified and still crashed and burned. So here was the situation. Cute girl in one of my classes. Made some small talk on Tuesday, introduced myself and then went on my merry way. Thursday comes around; make some small talk in class before it starts. I take my time getting ready to leave, trying to time it right. This is about the time I get the feeling that something is not right, because I waited for her. She was talking to the girl who was sitting next to her. So I walk behind her waiting for my chance, she goes left I go left and then she stops and gets on her phone. I am committed to going left....shortening the story I walk up to her after making a weird walking pattern and straight up say this, "Hey, I have a quick question for you (locking up the front tire coming into a turn), can I take you out dinner sometime(proceed to crash here). Soon as those words left my mouth, I knew the answer was no. She said she was seeing someone. So now I am committed to walking with her in an awkward situation and I ask where she went to school, turns out she went to the same school I did. So the first time I ask a girl out, I crash and burn. I think I know what I did wrong and I think I can learn from it. I need to learn from my mistakes and just go with the flow. Speaking of beards, I would like an opinion on if my beard looks better on me than clean shaven. Granted the beard is about a month old (I grow facial hair slow). Here is the link to my photos. I don't really have any recent, beardless photos. http://picasaweb.google.com/pat.mcsomething/BeardVNoBeard?feat=directlink One final note, besides the fact that I don't think I really asked a question at all in this thread, knowing that I messed up with that girl. For the future, it would be a better idea to work slower, instead of blatantly asking her out? Well, sometimes you fall off and you need to get right back on. And also, about two weeks ago I managed to get a cougar's number at a bar and then proceeded to go out on a date with her. That was a big step for me. And as the Eagles are singing right now, Take it easy.