Discussion in 'On Topic' started by GPK, Jul 8, 2008.
Revolvers are not suppose to suppress well because the gasses escape between the cylinder and the barrel. Always hard to tell how quite something is on video because it is depenant on the mike on the video camera
silenced revolver that's only good for shooting at the berm because you can't aim the dam thing anymore because the silencer obscures the sight picture from your front sight.
Stick a cmore on it. that is what a flip would do
Please explain to me how this is different from any other silences handgun? Are all silenced handguns useless?
Dude, look at the vid again.
The sights on that gun aren't tall enough to overcome the OD of the supressor. You are largely shooting "blind".
Most guns you can easily source sights that are tall enough to "see" over the supressor. Or you get lucky and they come high enough from the factory. It has nothing to do with the actual performace (Db reduction) of the supressor.
No, I do understand how a surpressed handgun is useful. But when you remove one of the most important aspects of a gun (aiming) yes, to "me" it's nothing more than a conversation piece, a plinker shooting blindly. I have seen plenty of surpressed handguns that have an actual working sight system. This was tapped, and given a silencer for a 9mm at that.
This is simply surpressed for the sake of being surpressed, in the process it has rendered it useless. An upgrade should "enhance" a gun, not render it useless. That's the difference between a properly engineered pistol and a back woods hill billy smith'd pistol. Sorry, not too impressed.
holy crap that is insane
the nagant uses a design that moves the cylinder forward to seal the chamber.
I'm pretty sure the russians silenced them as well.
I usually would agree, but part of me thinks that this is kind of neat just for the experimental factor. A nagant is unique in that it seals the cylinder to the chamber upon firing, which negates many of the negatives associated with supressing a revolver(s). Other than the sights (which could be rectified without too much trouble), it seemed to work well.
Useless, yeah; but when have you ever seen a supressed Nagant? I've done dumber things to scratch an itch.
forward yes, sealed? Doubt it.
hey, like I said, it's a conversation piece at best. And if it was properly engineered so you can actually aim the gun, I'd say good job as well. The sights to "me" are a big factor in a gun.
Like I said, I've seen plenty properly engineered that didn't have to compromise the general principals of a guns design.
Agreed sights would be better. I do shoot plent of targets at matches without seeing the sights though. If your index is good and you know how much you need to see, or don't need to see you can still get good hits.
The case design for the 7.62 Nagant cartridge actually puts the case mouth far enough forward that the expanding brass also seals the tiny gap left when the cylinder goes forward to the barrel on cocking. The Russians did, from what I hear, have some suppressed Nagant revolvers used by their secret police.
I just can't picture someone spending that money for a silencer for an old Nagant.
Looks like the Russians took advantage of the gas seal...
I expect that the average shot distance when using a suppressed Nagant revolver was in the neighborhood of less than 12" ...
The Nagant revolver is one of the only revolvers that can be suppressed. When using the 7.62 Nagant ammo the chamber moves forward and the round makes a seal making it able to be silenced.
The brass on the round comes farther forward than the bullet, which makes the seal.
Well crap, everything I had to say has already been said. I want a Nagant revolver so bad, at $80 it's a steal.
Ok learn something everyday. Still do not want.
I think its a 9mm supressor