This will end up polarizing..but I have a question..

Normie

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do you think the security dude is the one who made the no gun policy up? or simply enforcing the policy someone higher up created? why would you go after the messenger?
This, this right here has me heated!

Why woud you go after the messenger? Lets see..

"I used to be a cop"

Oh really? Does that mean you swore an oath to defend the constitution, uphold the law, protect and serve?

"Yes"

Then why the fuck are you enforcing an illegal decree, something you yourself should well know is illegal.

He is worse than the person who decided to try this bullshit by blantantly lying about the legality of his actions and the authority he has to execute them.
 

Laserbeak

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Oct 5, 2001
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You handled it well. I'm surprised it hasn't been an issue before there. Abraham Lincoln was shot while watching a show. It's dangerous stuff.

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Leonard Washington

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Aug 15, 2004
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welcome to America. You need a gun to get groceries at Walmart. See a play Or see a drag show.
All of those happened in the last week

I only go places that I feel like I would need a gun just in case shit pops off. Walmart? Full tac vest, extra mags, secondary weapon strapped to my ankle just wishing a motherfucker would.

Christmas play at my kids school? I sit with my back to the wall, strategically placed and hidden weapons under my seat and near points of egress to lay suppressive fire for a safe exit. Grappling hook and smoke bombs in my wife’s purse in case of secondary shooter near exits.

I’m ready.
 

whatever

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Feb 18, 2004
216,470
This, this right here has me heated!

Why woud you go after the messenger? Lets see..

"I used to be a cop"

Oh really? Does that mean you swore an oath to defend the constitution, uphold the law, protect and serve?

"Yes"

Then why the fuck are you enforcing an illegal decree, something you yourself should well know is illegal.

He is worse than the person who decided to try this bullshit by blantantly lying about the legality of his actions and the authority he has to execute them.

what is your rights audit youtube channel?
 

KingGargantuan

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Oct 4, 2001
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So I took my daughter and my mom to see Hamilton today at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts. This is a very nice performing arts center; owned by Broward County, and operated by Performing Arts Center Authority -- an intergovernmental organization which was created by the Florida Legislature as a special district.

I noticed metal detectors and security with wands, so I pulled one aside and told him I was carrying. He told me I wasn't going in with it. I asked to speak with a police officer. The head of security, who informed me was an ex-police officer (huge surprise), told me I'm not bringing it in. I told him that this was a County facility and it's against the law to deny me access when I have license to carry concealed. He said he didn't care and I wasn't going in with it. Then he said "we serve alcohol". Ok..but this isn't a bar. (I'll explain below).

I left my mom and daughter there, walked all the way back to the car, dropped off the gun, walked back. Wasted 25 minutes, which sucked bc I bought upgraded club level seats so there was food, drinks, etc. The higher-end experience I paid for got wasted by someone violating my rights and completely disregarding law.

Florida law pre-empts any County, City, Town, Municipality firearms laws and declares them null and void. The Florida law is all that matters, and it has a list of banned places to conceal. A performing arts center, or anything like it, is not on the list -- it's actually a pretty short list. Specifically, related to the alcohol, "Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;"

There's a civil penalty for violating the preemption law, so I can sue the county for violating my rights. I get why it looks petty (to very anti-gun people), but honestly it's on the principle of violating my right, whatever the right is -- fuck you local government, you're not going to violate my law just because you want to flex on me.

No poll because that makes it more polarizing. Discuss.






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I don’t know if I would throw a bunch of money at it but I would find a way to let them know they fucked up.
 

KingGargantuan

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The biggest tragedy here is feeling like you need a gun on hand to go watch a musical.
No joke, have you seen America lately?

Mass shooting here two days ago. Two more shootings yesterday. Gun nuts are stupid. So are anti-gun nuts. I’ve never felt the “need” to have one but I’m starting to get the itch.
 

Menger

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Nov 23, 2011
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I don’t think you are wrong but think it’s shitty that local taxpayers fund the remedy. Not sure how to fix that.
 

KingGargantuan

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Oct 4, 2001
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Also does this fall under something similar to people getting denied service for not wearing a mask?

“We have the right to deny you for any reason” type of thing?
 

Fanya

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Jun 23, 2005
9,934
You somehow thought I was asking a legal question?

Or just trying to be argumentative?

Obviously what we've been discussing for 4 pages, and what is proposed in the first post, is what should I do?
For any regular person I'd argue it isn't worth the time or money.

But since your a lawyer, and it costs you nothing but 15 minutes to send out letters on the company letter head, I'd say send out some letters and post the lolz.
 

Boots

I'm wearing a disguise
Jul 2, 2001
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It doesn't get much more American than looking to sue a theatre because they wouldn't let you take your gun inside :rofl:

This is why I love OT haha
 
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spooled2.2

fuck off real life flanders
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Mar 1, 2002
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No joke, have you seen America lately?

Mass shooting here two days ago. Two more shootings yesterday. Gun nuts are stupid. So are anti-gun nuts. I’ve never felt the “need” to have one but I’m starting to get the itch.
My post was a commentary about the state of things in the US as it pertains to public safety.
 

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