This, this right here has me heated!do you think the security dude is the one who made the no gun policy up? or simply enforcing the policy someone higher up created? why would you go after the messenger?
This would hit harder if you didn’t expose yourself earlier in the week by saying..no pity whatsoever, you absolutely should not have had a weapon there and the fact that you tried to bring one is pathetic
welcome to America. You need a gun to get groceries at Walmart. See a play Or see a drag show.
All of those happened in the last week
This, this right here has me heated!
Why woud you go after the messenger? Lets see..
"I used to be a cop"
Oh really? Does that mean you swore an oath to defend the constitution, uphold the law, protect and serve?
Then why the fuck are you enforcing an illegal decree, something you yourself should well know is illegal.
He is worse than the person who decided to try this bullshit by blantantly lying about the legality of his actions and the authority he has to execute them.
So I took my daughter and my mom to see Hamilton today at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts. This is a very nice performing arts center; owned by Broward County, and operated by Performing Arts Center Authority -- an intergovernmental organization which was created by the Florida Legislature as a special district.
I noticed metal detectors and security with wands, so I pulled one aside and told him I was carrying. He told me I wasn't going in with it. I asked to speak with a police officer. The head of security, who informed me was an ex-police officer (huge surprise), told me I'm not bringing it in. I told him that this was a County facility and it's against the law to deny me access when I have license to carry concealed. He said he didn't care and I wasn't going in with it. Then he said "we serve alcohol". Ok..but this isn't a bar. (I'll explain below).
I left my mom and daughter there, walked all the way back to the car, dropped off the gun, walked back. Wasted 25 minutes, which sucked bc I bought upgraded club level seats so there was food, drinks, etc. The higher-end experience I paid for got wasted by someone violating my rights and completely disregarding law.
Florida law pre-empts any County, City, Town, Municipality firearms laws and declares them null and void. The Florida law is all that matters, and it has a list of banned places to conceal. A performing arts center, or anything like it, is not on the list -- it's actually a pretty short list. Specifically, related to the alcohol, "Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;"
There's a civil penalty for violating the preemption law, so I can sue the county for violating my rights. I get why it looks petty (to very anti-gun people), but honestly it's on the principle of violating my right, whatever the right is -- fuck you local government, you're not going to violate my law just because you want to flex on me.
No poll because that makes it more polarizing. Discuss.
No joke, have you seen America lately?The biggest tragedy here is feeling like you need a gun on hand to go watch a musical.
For any regular person I'd argue it isn't worth the time or money.You somehow thought I was asking a legal question?
Or just trying to be argumentative?
Obviously what we've been discussing for 4 pages, and what is proposed in the first post, is what should I do?
My post was a commentary about the state of things in the US as it pertains to public safety.No joke, have you seen America lately?
Mass shooting here two days ago. Two more shootings yesterday. Gun nuts are stupid. So are anti-gun nuts. I’ve never felt the “need” to have one but I’m starting to get the itch.
You did the right thing by going to your car and not being an asshole about it and just write them a sternly worded email laterYou're in the right but the problem is those types of people don't care and they don't care about whatever, if any, repercussions will come of it.