CAR Trade 2008 Si for 2009 WRX?

[S_rangeBrew]

I really like my 2008 Civic Si, but the 2009 WRX looks like a hell of a deal. This is for my daily driver.

Positives on the Si:
8000 rpm redline and shift light.
The sounds it makes and power surge at 6000+ RPM (VTEC, YO!)
Rifle-bolt precision on the 6-speed transmission.
Front LSD... great in the snow.
Decent gas milage. 26mpg on my commute, 30+ mpg on the highway.
Great build quality.

Negatives on the Si:
Sloping "stylish" windshield gives massive blind spots and giant dash.
Ebrake is right in the way of my knee, and the gas pedal is akward.
FWD.

Positives on the WRX:
AWD
Hatchback
Massive power and torque vs. the Si (265HP vs. 197HP, 135 vs. 240 torque)
Can put in my own stereo (the Si system is so integrated, I don't want to touch it)

Negatives on the WRX:
Spun bearing reports on some cars.
Not as good gas milage as Si.
More expensive.


Any other thoughts?

 

[GammaRadiation]

Shift light and the redline are something you look at when purchasing a car?

The new WRX is ugly as sin.

 

[FadedCamo]

Shift light and the redline are something you look at when purchasing a car?

The new WRX is ugly as sin.

They offer the WRX in sedan, which is much less ugly than the wagon.

Still not as good looking as the old generation, though.


Annnyways, I'd go for the WRX. The power and awd is worth the tradeoff in gas mileage. If you drive it light (stay out of the boost) you can probably get 26-28 mpg. And if you ever get bored of it, you can mod and tune it easy enough.

 

[Martin Atchet]

Wagon looks sexy, fuck the haterssszzzzddddsssszzz

 

[S_rangeBrew]

Shift light and the redline are something you look at when purchasing a car?

The new WRX is ugly as sin.

I like high-revving vehicles and the sound they make. The shift light is VERY useful on the Si, because it only makes power in the last 3000rpm...I'd be bouncing off the rev limiter all the time without that light.

It takes more technical skill and precision to make a high-revving engine than a low revving one. I prefer F1 to NASCAR. I'm an RPM snob.

 

[S_rangeBrew]

^^^IMO, the sedan is hideous while the wagon isn't all that bad looking.

Different strokes for different folks...

Agreed. I think the wagon with the extra styling bits that come standard on the '09 WRX make it look "decent". IMO, the STI with the fender flares looks AWESOME.

Anyway, it's all moot, I sat in one yesterday, and the seating position and interior felt like I was in a minivan after my snug "boy racer" Si. I'm gonna keep the Si as a daily driver, and just mod my DSM and Porsche.

Thanks for the opinions.

 

[GammaRadiation]

I like high-revving vehicles and the sound they make. The shift light is VERY useful on the Si, because it only makes power in the last 3000rpm...I'd be bouncing off the rev limiter all the time without that light.

It takes more technical skill and precision to make a high-revving engine than a low revving one. I prefer F1 to NASCAR. I'm an RPM snob.

to the entire post.

Buy an FD if you want a high RPM redline bouncing engine.

A shift light shouldnt be needed. If you listen to the engine and feel the way the car is responding to the throttle you know when to shift. Shift lights are only useful in drag racing. This is so you can set them to where shifting will optimise acceleration. Shift lights in most production cars are dummy lights like oil or temperature lights.

Powerband is a product of design, not of engineering ability. In fact, it is harder to make power down low because power is a factor of torque and RPM (time).

 

[mtnbikekid08]

lol @ using shift light.
What the fuck are you doing, racing every fucking car you see? Get a life dude. Shift lights aren't necessary, and an 8000 redline doesn't mean shit.

 

[neotango]

I like the engine/exhaust sound of boxer engines. AWD is also very helpful for ice and snow. But then you said in your later post that you have a DSM which is probably AWD and great in winter, and Porsche for RWD summer fun and probably has a nice boxer engine (flat-6). So I think you have the best of everything right now. Don't waste your money. The WRX is for people who don't have a FWD, RWD, and AWD car like you already do.

 

[Toxicity]

What the fuck thread

 

[S_rangeBrew]

to the entire post.

Buy an FD if you want a high RPM redline bouncing engine.

A shift light shouldnt be needed. If you listen to the engine and feel the way the car is responding to the throttle you know when to shift. Shift lights are only useful in drag racing. This is so you can set them to where shifting will optimise acceleration. Shift lights in most production cars are dummy lights like oil or temperature lights.

Powerband is a product of design, not of engineering ability. In fact, it is harder to make power down low because power is a factor of torque and RPM (time).

lol @ using shift light.
What the fuck are you doing, racing every fucking car you see? Get a life dude. Shift lights aren't necessary, and an 8000 redline doesn't mean shit.

Ok kids. Let's go to the track and see how full of shit you are, experts.

 

[S_rangeBrew]

I like the engine/exhaust sound of boxer engines. AWD is also very helpful for ice and snow. But then you said in your later post that you have a DSM which is probably AWD and great in winter, and Porsche for RWD summer fun and probably has a nice boxer engine (flat-6). So I think you have the best of everything right now. Don't waste your money. The WRX is for people who don't have a FWD, RWD, and AWD car like you already do.

A well thought out, sensible post by someone who obviously isn't a snot-nosed bench racer. Thank you sir.

 

[GammaRadiation]

Ok kids. Let's go to the track and see how full of shit you are, experts.

 

[GammaRadiation]

A well thought out, sensible post by someone who obviously isn't a snot-nosed bench racer. Thank you sir.

 

[energie]

Ok kids. Let's go to the track and see how full of shit you are, experts.

your civic si vs my 335i?


Okay you can launch at whatever rpm you think is good riceboy


and PS a good exhaust/intake/header setup will make the car sound good without revving to 5500+ lol.


and this comign from someone who owned a prelude sure it sounds nice but other then sounding somewhat nice it accomplishes nothing haha

 

[04JETTA]

id stay with the si

 

[S_rangeBrew]

your civic si vs my 335i?


Okay you can launch at whatever rpm you think is good riceboy


and PS a good exhaust/intake/header setup will make the car sound good without revving to 5500+ lol.


and this comign from someone who owned a prelude sure it sounds nice but other then sounding somewhat nice it accomplishes nothing haha

Actually, the Si is my daily driver. I'd be using my 400+ HP corner-balanced AWD Talon TSi, or if I wanted to be easy on you, the Porsche 928s4.

Good luck.

 

[deusexaethera]

I can't believe it. How did this great thread about WRXes and Civic SIs turn into a shitfest???

 

[GammaRadiation]

Actually, the Si is my daily driver. I'd be using my 400+ HP corner-balanced AWD Talon TSi, or if I wanted to be easy on you, the Porsche 928s4.

Good luck.

I can't believe it. How did this great thread about WRXes and Civic SIs turn into a shitfest???

The OP was, subconsciously or not, asking for a shitfest in his first rice post.

 

[deusexaethera]

Time to get the ol' sarcasm meter checked, Fryman.

 

[pesky]

the wrx is nice, but i have an 08 si and i love it.

 

[Short Bus]

I haven't driven a new WRX, but I had an '02. I think the latest Si is a nice driving car, I'd keep it.