Saw the kid from Utah State again in the gym last night. He watched me squat, and he said that I was making the mistake that tons of other people do: Bringing the knees over the toes Really bad for the knees, and it also recruits lower back as well. He and his buddy walked me through the form ... felt wayyy different than after I had been doing it. I hadn't been pushing my butt back nearly enough. I apparently had some hamstring inflexibilty/weakness that needs work, which explains my low GM numbers. Looks like it's back to the drawing board ... yet again. Good thing tomorrow is light squat day so I can work on the form What I don't fucking understand is how the personal trainers at the gym that I worked with could have overlooked this rather big deal in the form. If my membership fee wasn't so cheap compared to the other gyms around here, I'd ditch the fuckin place and go somewhere else. BTW, I work out at 24 hour, that should explain why I seriously need to workout with these guys more or someone else who knows what they're doing.