I posted in a thread quite a bit and started one of my own. The first one is the one I started and the second is the one I posted in in the Off Topic area. http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=2824476 http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=2825856&page=13 Anyhow, quick and dirty cliffs of the above threads are that I'm fine with everything but initiating the first kiss. However, I hung out with the girl last night and managed to get it done. It certainly wasn't the situation I had planned in my head, but I got it done none the less. OT and a couple guys I work with had me worried about friendzone, haha. I haven't talked to her yet today but hopefully I will later on this evening or tonight. I think I'm clear of friendzone now so hopefully things will progress into the relationship I'd like to have with her. Figured I'd post this for those curious from the other threads.