Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by Maestro Nobones, Aug 15, 2008.
wow very exciting, and these are the heavies! I feel bad I haven't watched any before this.
olympic level judo is some of the prettiest martial arts competition you can find imo.
its showing on TV?
nah it's on the website
I have no idea how judo scoring is
101 points wtf
yeah I couldn't understand the scoring when they were airing it earlier on CBC
Those guys are awesome would be nice to see more of the throws used in MMA.
NBC won't let me stream it because I'm in Canada
Does is just straight up say that? Just put in a US zipcode and stuff.
I put a zipcode in, picked a sat provider, etc. Then some bitches voice came on and said "due to something and something, we cannot broadcast outside of the united states"
Well that blows
Basically the goal is for you to score an ippon. You can get one by submitting the guy, catching him with a flawless throw or pinning him down and as the time passes you start racking up points the longer you hold the pin.
To score an ippon in judo the throw has to be clean and you have to maintain control of the throw. If you manage to power through the throw and its not clean or the opponent doesnt land on his back he lands on his side or some shit then you dont get full points. To score an ippon off a pin you need to hold it for 25 secs.
heres a peice from wikipedia on how it works
Judo has four grades of score: ippon, waza-ari, yuko, and koka. An ippon literally means "one point" and wins the match. An ippon is awarded for (a) a throw that lands the opponent largely on their back in a controlled manner with speed and force; (b) for a mat hold of sufficient duration (twenty five seconds); or (c) for opponent submission. A waza-ari is awarded for a throw that does not quite have enough power or control to be considered ippon; or for a hold of twenty seconds. A waza-ari is a half-point, and, if two are scored, they constitute the full point needed for a win.
Yuko and koka are lower grades of score, and only count as tie-breakers - they are not cumulative with one another. Scoring is lexicographic; a waza-ari beats any number of yuko, but a waza-ari and a yuko beat a waza-ari with no yuko. It is not uncommon for a match to be decided based on koka.
A fifteen-second hold down scores yuko and a ten-second hold down scores koka. If the person who secured the hold down already has a waza-ari, they only need to hold the hold down for twenty seconds to score ippon by way of two waza-ari (waza-ari-awasete-ippon). Throws further lacking the requirements of an ippon or a waza-ari might score a yuko or a koka. So-called "skillful takedowns" are also permitted (e.g. the flying arm-bar) but do not score.
If the scores are identical at the end of the match, the contest is resolved by the Golden Score rule. Golden Score is a sudden death situation where the clock is reset to match-time, and the first contestant to achieve any score wins. If there is no score during this period, then the winner is decided by Hantei, the majority opinion of the referee and the two corner judges.
the former wrestler from mongolia pwnd!
olympic judo is a lil sheisty because the throw does not have to be flawless, does not have to represent good technique, and can be mangled up bastardized judo and still get an ippon.
but it still is badass to watch.
you can think of the score as #s
wazari = 100
yuko = 10
koka = 1
a wazari + koka would be 101, wazari + yuko would be 110, 2 yuko is 020 etc etc.
yeah the NBC website is a hilarious tease
I went to all the trouble of finding a fake zip code, cable provider and all along they were gonna deny me access anyways
In the 73 kilo divisaion the korean ippon'd the Kazigstanian guy but his back never touched. The torque from the throw sysiously threw him over and he landed on his feet and head in a bridge and rolled through. They gave The Korean 100pts and stopped the match. It was like 45 sec in.
Become an American.
I saw that and was thinking WTF thats not an ippon.
Yeah i thought it was a Koka
i saw a brazillian pull guard in judo in these olympics
i thought that was pretty funny
I heard about that my freind nearly threw his lap top out the window because hes a judo fan boy and he hates BJJ.
i'm confused, the video i'm watching (73kg Round of 32) has almost what you describe, he's fighting a kazakstanian, at 4:15 of the match the kazak attempts a tomoe nage (circle throw) he fails as the korean half cartwheels out and pins him... the referee calls a pin (the hitler salute toward the judoka). he then pins him for 11 seconds (not enough to end the match), since you need 10 seconds for a koka he was awarded 001 "points". the lowest score possible.
ok nevermind, i looked through some more tape and saw you meant the match with the uzbekistani (round 16). but even now, i'm confused, he was never on his head/feet and there was no bridge.. he landed on his back and far side.
so i'm looking again for another tape, and in the final match, against the azerbajanian... at 45 seconds into the tape HE ippons the korean and the korean nearly bridges all the way through, but the azerbajain guy falls on him as he rolls through.
in each of those tapes... something happened in the match that you didn't describe correctly and rules it out. so what the hell file/match were you watching???