ok, so i know i have been trolling a little here in the last few days, sorry about that. but at the same time, i have been reading the archives, etc and developing a routine/log. Here is my current stats: 197 lb 6'0" 19-20% BF (got it measured today at the gym... for some reason the PT did it through my underarmour hea gear tee thing ) This is down from 236 lb this time last year (i did A LOT of running my first semester. didnt do much else, basically starved myself. I was clueless as to what i was doing. lost quite a bit of muscle doing it ) Pics: holy bacne Goals: Doesn't really matter, im more concerned with the look and BF%, but somewhere around 175-180 18'0" (i kid, i kid) no higher than 15%, preferably around 12-13 Timeframe: Here is the thing, i dont have a set time frame for it, but i would like to get WELL on my way before aug 30. I am at home for the time being, and thus have easy access to a gym, supplements, a blender, etc etc. However, in September, I am going back up to school and wont have a kitchen. No kitchen means no sink, no stove, no food to prepare, etc. Basically, i will have to resort to cafeteria food (which isnt all that abundant in its protein supplies). Also, while I do have a very nice campus gym, I wont be able to work out nearly as much as i can now, since i will be taking 18 credits, full of ass hard engineering courses. Also, with college comes drinking, which as bad as it is on its own, comes shitty late night snacks. I am using fitday to count the calories I eat now, starting today. Here is today's breakdown: it seems a bit high. granted, i dont eat a pound and a half of cherries every day (it was sitting on my desk at work and i kept eating them, didnt realize it when i ate the whole bag ). I will probably cut down to 1 protein bar too. The rest should stay the same (maybe different dressing for the salad) My workout schedule: A - back/bis Bent over row Pull down Lying row Underhand pull down Curls Preacher curls Reverse curls B chest/tris Dumbbell press Incline dumbbell press Fly Decline fly Decline press Triceps extension Kickback Pushdown C - shoulders Shoulder press Upright row Front raise Lateral raise Military press shrug D - legs Squats 45 degree leg press (sled) straight leg dead lift seated leg curl standing calf raise (had to do it on a machine, gym doesnt have short boxes) 45 degree calf press E - rest I also run as much as i can on most days (this isn't very much because im not used to the high altitude - im in CO now, lived in Boston for a while - and thus i get a stitch pretty fast, and hard for me to keep motivated. I am placing an order for creatine tomorrow - any other supplements i should be taking? I am using ON Whey right now, with 2 scoops (48g) per shake. So thats it Any advice/help/pointers?