Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by 1200mk, Nov 3, 2006.
they are selling the xti from bhphoto for 570 (silver though)!
build quality for one.
400 has more mp, it has to be better
no 2nd lcd and rear command wheel ftl
You changed your av again.
they have the 400d for 570? that doesnt seem right
Not right at all
I just checked BH and it was 714 for the body only, I don't know where he's getting the 570 price.
it was a slickdeal last nite...
it is now expired:
I'd take the 30D over that shit anyday of the week.
I'd even take 20D over any of the digial rebels
more mp on the same size sensor on the 400D... 30D's iq > 400D
poor ergonomics on the 400D..............
if you get a 20d or a 30d you won't feel the need to upgrade as soon if you get serious.
The MP count and pitch didn't do shit to the IQ, so stop measurebating. The noise level on the XTi is actually LESS than the 8MP Rebel XT. And by "ergonomics" you must be talking about the smallish grip. The rest of the controls and operation are just fine.
The REAL differences are:
- Form factor is different (doesn't mean the 30D is better, just different)
- Magnesium body construction on the 30D
- Directional controls on the XTi vs. Thumbwheel on the 30D
- Spot metering on the 30D
- ISO 3200 via ISO expansion on the 30D
- ISO settings in 1/3 stop on 30D (ISO 100, 125, 160, 200, etc...)
- Dust removal system on the XTi
- MTBF rating on the 30D shutter is 100k actuations, XTi is around 70k (YMMV)
- 1/8000sec shutter speed on the 30D
- 3fps or 5fps on the 30D (selectable), 3fps on the XTi
- And of course 10MP on the XTi and 8MP on the 30D
"but but but...the internet said more mp=more noise "
I think noise on the XTi is less because of a weaker AA filter. The images straight out of the XTi generally are softer than out of the 350D or 30D.
Always a tradeoff between noise and sharpness.
Shadow detail is probably worse on the XTi than the 350D or 30D but I can't say for sure.
Shadow detail is actually better on the XTi, and the XTi has about 1/3 stop more dynamic range (in jpg) than the Nikon D80, Sony A100 or Rebel XT. With RAW you can pull a bit more out of the image.
Optical resolution is also higher with the XTi than the XT, but you are right that the XTi images appear marginally softer than the XT. This is easily addressed in post wth USM though and not really a significant downside.
Basically, on every test that I've seen the XTi put through, it has consistently proven internet measurebators to be dead wrong. That's not to say it's a huge leap forward in IQ from the XT, it isn't, but the smaller pixel pitch didn't negatively impact IQ.
The bottom line is that the XT, XTi, 20D, 30D or even the 1DMII will all give you nearly the same image quality and more depends on the quality of the processor behind the viewfinder than anything going on in the camera.
Perhaps there is some magic going on with Digic III... I didn't really expect that much from it.
The laws of Physics and electrical engineering say shadow detail should be worse, so maybe Digic III is actually worth its salt.