Seriously, does anybody have a sense of ethics on the internet anymore? This week I've hung out in the HTML, PHP and C++ chat rooms on irc.gamesurge.net (for lack of anything better to do) and I'm outraged by some of the comments I've seen. One person saw nothing wrong with writing a program to parse the source of somebody's website, grab data out of it, then use it on his own website. Another saw no problem with ripping a cd he just bought into mp3 format, then allowing the music to be streamed from his website. Countless people tried to defend their "right" yes they actually used the word "right" to pirate photoshop because "the cd only cost them $0.72 to make". Hello? they didn't pay those programmers anything did they? Another web forum I was on had people bragging about downloading doom3 just minutes after it hit store shelves. Their justification: "why pay for a game if i might not like it". my question "have you ever bought one after you downloaded it and liked it?" "of course not". It just sickens me. No wonder there's no jobs available for CS people. Nobody pays for anything anymore, nor do they feel they need to. It's sick, really.