I don't know if I'm too hard on my pants or what, but they all seem to fall apart in less than a year. I'll never buy another pair of Dockers again, several times I've squatted down to get paper or whatever, only to have the knee completely rip open, seem to seem. Several pants have the hem come loose, or a belt loop come off, or the buttons hanging by a thread after a couple months of wear. I don't do anything especially strenuous, I go to work, sit 8 hours, and come home. Normal office stuff. I'm talking about slacks, maybe some khakis. Nothing too fancy (expensive), it's just for work (slacks and button-up kind of place).