I have a few potentials. 1 - NIB from a dealer 500 OTD including tax but i have to drive an hour each way 2 - used from a pawn shop. 480 OTD. it's 5 minutes away. 3 - used from the interweb. comes with 4 mags. 475 shipped + 15 transfer fee = 490 4 - used from the interweb. 447.50 + 15 transfer fee = 462.50. the prices are so close i can't decide. honestly and truely i'm between the nib for 500 or the used with 4 mags for 490 w/ transfer.